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[Kifeas]

Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan has indicated that the per capita income in Turkey will reach 10,000 USD in the next five years. ''When our party came to power, the per capita income in Turkey was around 2,100 USD. The current per capita income is 4,300 USD. This number will go up to 10,000 USD in my second term,'' said Erdogan.


And yes, the Army sucks all the money because of the Western provocations in the middle-east which awakens terrorist activities. So we have no other choice than protecting our country!!

Per capita's and GDPs mean nothing. What you should look at is the distribution of this income. In Turkey, 5% of the population owns more than 70% of the nations wealth. In Cyprus 5% of the population owns only 15% of the country’s wealth. The rest is more or less evenly distributed.

[2fan]

The Turkish Army takes all the money available and feeds well all the Turkish soldiers.

Possibly a flippant comment on my part (and if it is seen as so or offensive to anwyone then applogise in advanced) but having personaly been 'fed' by the 'Turkish' army I can state that they do feed soliders but to say they feed them 'well' is not my personal experience. The food as attrocious.

You probably stayed in a camp that the cook was also the crook!

The Gc's are infiltrating the Turkish kitchens. By cooking sorry ass food for the Turks, maybe they'll leave.

[Turkey (( *]

Ok, and what does that have to do with the army?? And can I learn your source please...I would like to have some info on this distribution bit!

[erolz]

Per capita's and GDPs mean nothing. What you should look at is the distribution of this income. In Turkey, 5% of the population owns more than 70% of the nations wealth. In Cyprus 5% of the population owns only 15% of the country’s wealth. The rest is more or less evenly distributed.

I also doubt your figures for Cyprus. I doubt there is a sinlge 'modern democratic western (capitalist) nation where the richest 5% of the population own only 15% of the countires wealth. Also I undertsand that it is true of ALL such nations that this gap between the richest 5% of the population and the poorest 20% is widening year on year and has done consistently since at least the end of WWII. That is , to me, a function and result of the capitalist system that dominates the world today - be it within nations or between them.

[Kifeas]

Per capita's and GDPs mean nothing. What you should look at is the distribution of this income. In Turkey, 5% of the population owns more than 70% of the nations wealth. In Cyprus 5% of the population owns only 15% of the country’s wealth. The rest is more or less evenly distributed.

I also doubt your figures for Cyprus. I doubt there is a sinlge 'modern democratic western (capitalist) nation where the richest 5% of the population own only 15% of the countires wealth. Also I undertsand that it is true of ALL such nations that this gap between the richest 5% of the population and the poorest 20% is widening year on year and has done consistently since at least the end of WWII. That is , to me, a function and result of the capitalist system that dominates the world today - be it within nations or between them.

I have seen these statistics somewhere but I cannot recall it. If it is not 15% it is definately near there. What had stricken me was the fact that Cyprus had the second or third best distribution, with Luxemburg, if I remember correctly, being the first.

[Turkey (( *]

And what about the Turkish statistics???

[Kifeas]

And what about the Turkish statistics???

They are from the same source. Turkey's record was one of the lowest.

[erolz]

And what about the Turkish statistics???

They are from the same source. Turkey's record was one of the lowest.

The closest comparision I can find is for average houshold income splt between the highest and lowsest 10% of a nations population - which can be found here

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/fac ... /2047.html

By these figures Turkey is slightly 'worse' than the EU average but not massively so. Unfortunately there are no figures for cyprus.

If someone can find a better list (not just of income but of wealth and not just 10% 10% split but say 5% richest vs 20% poorest) I would personaly be most interested in it. If it showed the change over time all the better.

As far as I am concerned it is inevitable that capitialist systems concentrate wealth and power in fewer and fewer hands over time. It may also achieve an overall increas in total wealth, but achieving this whilst widening the relative gap between richest and poorest is to me at least the biggest 'failure' of capitalist systems.

[Turkey (( *]

Now why do I seriously think that your anti-Turk judgement is affecting this statistic!! Sorry Kifeas, but I really don't trust you anymore, I will not be able to believe those statistics...