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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:22 pm

boulio wrote:well now it seems all you will get is the 259 million I read today that the luxumburg presidency is going to split the two regulations today at a metting of EU Forgnein ministers.So that at least the money is not lost.Of course to the displeasure of England.


Doesn't it depend whether the money is released before the current EU budget expires at the end of 2006? If the release of funds is delayed until then, it effectively won't exist.
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Postby boulio » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:26 pm

the paper said that if it is not realesed by the end of june for some reason it would be very difficult and a high probobilty not to even get the money,then it said that seperating the two regulations weould be difficult because of a few countries that are in favor of direct trade especially england to happen without at least a time frame for direct tradewith the north to occur.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:30 pm

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it is not realesed by the end of june for some reason it would be very difficult and a high probobilty not to even get the money,then it said that seperating the two regulations weould be difficult because of a few countries that are in favor of direct trade especially england to happen without at least a time frame for direct tradewith the north to occur.


this is what i read this morning had nothing to do with seperating the 2 issues, the money will probably go down the drain.
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Postby boulio » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:35 pm

well if there not seperated the money will go down the drain,you cant have direct trade with the north without the consent of the ROC,the americans know this and the british as well.the offer of the ROC which was also excepted by the luxumburg pres.was a good offer to start out with,and then if things went well there would be more eventually.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:38 pm

boulio I feel it was unbalanced as I detailed above.
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Postby boulio » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:42 pm

why was it unbalanced?the t/c and turkey request the embargos to be lifted correct?with ammohostou and larnaca ports you would export/import at will.if that went well than why not move to the airports and work on a solution on that while in the meantime also negotiating a overall settlement to the problem.welcome to the EU my friend you have to bend a little to get what you want,direct trade for a ghost town,which would also be rebuilt and bring in even more revenue to the t/c in form of jobs and tourism.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:46 pm

boulio please think clearly here its like me saying export your goods through famagusta a port totally controlled by TCs, would you do it? TCs dont trust they will be treated fairly and that a lot of red tape will generated to deter any YC exports/imports. We dont not want to be under the control of GC administration at all, brings back to many bad experiences which has led us to the current situation.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:59 pm

boulio wrote:well now it seems all you will get is the 259 million I read today that the luxumburg presidency is going to split the two regulations today at a metting of EU Forgnein ministers.So that at least the money is not lost.Of course to the displeasure of England.


Boulio, the two issues, funds and direct trade, are officially two separate issues. It is the TC side that refuses the money unless they are accompanied with the adoption of the direct trade regulation. However, they misinform the TC public by letting them believe that it is the GC side that refuses the release of the funds. Part of the money will be lost if it will not be absorbed by the end of the year. The 259 million Euros are over a three-year term and they are meant to improve the infrastructure in the north and cover harmonisation projects.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:17 pm

Kifeas your are right the coupling of the 2 issues was backed by UK and other EU members, as they felt the 2 issues will bring to end TC isolation, but its the GC administration that blocks the direct trade issue and therefore the money but we all know the money is not the real issue.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:boulio please think clearly here its like me saying export your goods through famagusta a port totally controlled by TCs, would you do it? TCs dont trust they will be treated fairly and that a lot of red tape will generated to deter any YC exports/imports. We dont not want to be under the control of GC administration at all, brings back to many bad experiences which has led us to the current situation.


The proposals on the Famagusta port would not require the direct involvement of the RoC. The port would be under the authority of the E.U. commission or the two municipalities on an equal footing.
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