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[Kifeas]

Kifeas

The "Greek Army National Guard" is not a Greek Army, it is the RoC National Guard. I have to correct you on this because you or maybe someone else might imply later that the south is under Greek occupation, likewise the north is under a Turkish one.

You state the "occupation" of the north as you call it as if its the plague, the current situation is the culmination of many errors made by both communities, this "occupation" make us feel safe and until Greek Cypriots can demonstrate maturity and act like the EU members they consider themselves to be, reflecting a genuine desire for a solution this "occupation" will continue.

The occupation might not be the plague for you because it allows you and your community to illegally enjoy and exploit 2.2 times more properties than your fair share, while at the same time and for 31 years now, it deprives my right to use, enjoy and exploit my property fair share, together with 180,000 other GCs.

If it allows you to enjoy the spoils of Turkeys pirate attack, then why should I be surprised if you consider it a heaven?

[metecyp]

The occupation might not be the plague for you because it allows you and your community to illegally enjoy and exploit 2.2 times more properties than your fair share, while at the same time and for 31 years now, it deprives my right to use, enjoy and exploit my property fair share, together with 180,000 other GCs.

If the "occupation" (or the current situation as I like to call it) created a heaven for TCs, believe me Kifeas, we wouldn't be discussing the Cyprus problem here now. Maybe you don't realize but it is also bad for us, maybe not as much as for you, as a refugee, but we're the ones living under heavy military presence, settlers, embargoes, nonrecognition and so many other things that are the direct result of the current situation (which I happen to believe that is both of our fault)

[Kifeas]

The occupation might not be the plague for you because it allows you and your community to illegally enjoy and exploit 2.2 times more properties than your fair share, while at the same time and for 31 years now, it deprives my right to use, enjoy and exploit my property fair share, together with 180,000 other GCs.

If the "occupation" (or the current situation as I like to call it) created a heaven for TCs, believe me Kifeas, we wouldn't be discussing the Cyprus problem here now. Maybe you don't realize but it is also bad for us, maybe not as much as for you, as a refugee, but we're the ones living under heavy military presence, settlers, embargoes, nonrecognition and so many other things that are the direct result of the current situation (which I happen to believe that is both of our fault)

Yes metecyp, I understand what you are saying and I appreciate it. However this is not how Viewpoint feels about it.

[Main_Source]

dont bother with Viewpoint, he's a dick.

[Viewpoint]

metecyp

If the "occupation" (or the current situation as I like to call it) created a heaven for TCs, believe me Kifeas, we wouldn't be discussing the Cyprus problem here now. Maybe you don't realize but it is also bad for us, maybe not as much as for you, as a refugee, but we're the ones living under heavy military presence, settlers, embargoes, nonrecognition and so many other things that are the direct result of the current situation (which I happen to believe that is both of our fault)

you are quick to point out all the negatives but dont you think this is a reflection on the GCs community?? and that only a plan like annan 5 hated and detested by 76% of GCs could persuade TCs to unite with people like main_stupid and micatcyiknowitall.

[Kifeas]

Viewpoint,
How do you react to the recent GC/TC meeting in Brussels under the auspices of the current E.U. (Luxemburg) presidency? The GC side asked the TC side to disassociate the E.U. aid from the direct trade regulation so that the funds go to the north immediately -otherwise they will be lost if not absorbed by the end of the year; and for direct trade the GC side proposed the opening of Famagusta port under the control of the E.U. commission or under the control of the two municipalities of Famagusta (the TC and the GC quarters,) with the exchange of Varoshia return and a moratorium on the construction in GC properties. The TC side rejected both proposals.

Did the GC side ask them to put a moratorium of the construction on TC properties? Did the GC side ask them to return an area that is currently inhabited by TCs or that it is of any use to them other than political? Can they not see the bust on the economy of both communities if Varoshia opens up? Who will get most of the construction contracts and projects that will be required for the rebuilding and refurnishing of the city?

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas

How do you react to the recent GC/TC meeting in Brussels under the auspices of the current E.U. (Luxemburg) presidency?

Please dont take this the wrong way but, the trade off suggested was not balanced,

you get Maras/Varosha, a share of Famagusta Port and a stop to development in the north = we get to share famagusta port with GCsand 259euros we rejected this.

we suggest we get direct trade/flights and 259euros = you get Maras/Varosha and a restriction on the types of developments going on in the north you rejected this.

im sure you have gathered that we are not interested in the money, let it go down the drain imo, the issue is to have direct trade/flights allowing us to improve our economy, but your fears are that this will mean a defacto recognition and a reduced desire for a solution, well how can we move forward improve or economy to facilitate a solution in the future without being under the control of GC administration. GCs complain that a solution will cost then highly and the our constitute state will be a burden then surely if there was a genuine desire for a solution by GCs they would see the larger picture and allow us to work harder at improving our economy which in a united Cyprus would be less of a burden if any.

[boulio]

well now it seems all you will get is the 259 million I read today that the luxumburg presidency is going to split the two regulations today at a metting of EU Forgnein ministers.So that at least the money is not lost.Of course to the displeasure of England.

[Viewpoint]

boulio where did you read that??

[boulio]

it was a greek business newspapaer this morning,im looking for the link.