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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

So which part of your post above has answered the hypothetical TC question...

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

:?:

Finally , Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .

I have nothing to discuss in private with you.

You are immature , rather childish and a spoiled sport. I can imagine you in politics !! If a G/C such as you can not even debate with a fellow G/C whom he has never met , how on earth would you discuss anything with a T/C.
You proved my point that you are a total waste of time when it comes to dealing with the Cyprob or for that matter world affairs .
Grow up mate , at least I have a heart and it is real .
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:51 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

So which part of your post above has answered the hypothetical TC question...

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

:?:

Finally , Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .

I have nothing to discuss in private with you.

You are immature , rather childish and a spoiled sport. I can imagine you in politics !! If a G/C such as you can not even debate with a fellow G/C whom he has never met , how on earth would you discuss anything with a T/C.
You proved my point that you are a total waste of time when it comes to dealing with the Cyprob or for that matter world affairs .
Grow up mate , at least I have a heart and it is real .

There is a few others who are heartless and immature. Perhaps they can donate their bodies to science so we can find out how our sub-human forumers live without a heart.
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Postby runaway » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:33 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

So which part of your post above has answered the hypothetical TC question...

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

:?:

Finally , Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .

I have nothing to discuss in private with you.

You are immature , rather childish and a spoiled sport. I can imagine you in politics !! If a G/C such as you can not even debate with a fellow G/C whom he has never met , how on earth would you discuss anything with a T/C.
You proved my point that you are a total waste of time when it comes to dealing with the Cyprob or for that matter world affairs .
Grow up mate , at least I have a heart and it is real .

There is a few others who are heartless and immature. Perhaps they can donate their bodies to science so we can find out how our sub-human forumers live without a heart.


Wow everyone seems to be against the evil woman all of a sudden. Count me in. :lol:
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Postby umit07 » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”


I thought you wanted to do the same thing? After all aren't we a like a virus teat has infected your land since 1571?
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Postby kurupetos » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:03 pm

Ok fellas let's make an assessment of this thread. One GC came in support of Miltiades: Notorious Resident Traitor of the CF Boutaniot. I was proved right once again; just two traitors in here. ...yes almost I forgot several mainland turks and other TC partionist of the likes of brainsnomore, fartaway and wrongviewpoint support you M. :roll: Well done! :roll:
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Postby Ierini-Baris » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:33 pm

kurupetos wrote:Ok fellas let's make an assessment of this thread. One GC came in support of Miltiades: Notorious Resident Traitor of the CF Boutaniot. I was proved right once again; just two traitors in here. ...yes almost I forgot several mainland turks and other TC partionist of the likes of brainsnomore, fartaway and wrongviewpoint support you M. :roll: Well done! :roll:


Count me in as well..and who do you have on your side ? More than that what kind of producing comment have you made on the thread instead of just crying around like a child!! I guess you did not like TCs helping GCs frineds to sweep out the fasicsts..did you ? :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:07 pm

Ierini-Baris wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Ok fellas let's make an assessment of this thread. One GC came in support of Miltiades: Notorious Resident Traitor of the CF Boutaniot. I was proved right once again; just two traitors in here. ...yes almost I forgot several mainland turks and other TC partionist of the likes of brainsnomore, fartaway and wrongviewpoint support you M. :roll: Well done! :roll:


Count me in as well..and who do you have on your side ? More than that what kind of producing comment have you made on the thread instead of just crying around like a child!! I guess you did not like TCs helping GCs frineds to sweep out the fasicsts..did you ? :D :D :D :D :D :D


Ierini-Baris, fascists, like the Nazis, are those who divide people into races and invade sovereign countries. If you disagree with somebody this doesn't mean he is "fascist".

You are being racist by trying to imply that everybody who is Greek and uses the Greek flag must be a "fascist". If it wasn't for the fascists and imperialists in UK and Turkey, and Cypriots were allowed to decide the destiny of their own island in a democratic and peaceful way then Cyprus would be part of the Greek Republic along with the other Greek islands.

But in any case, you are free to think of others in any way you want. And you are free to vote for whomever you want. Personally I am glad that those TCs voted in democratic elections and that with your votes those that you supported won.

In a united Cyprus, and with a real democracy, one person - one vote with no racist discriminations, an AKEL/CTP alliance could win every election (unless the center and right parties of the two communities can cooperate as well, which seems less likely)

So why you want to force in Cyprus fascist racist discriminations and you do not accept equality of citizens and a true democracy?
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Postby Ierini-Baris » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:29 pm

Piratis wrote:
Ierini-Baris wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Ok fellas let's make an assessment of this thread. One GC came in support of Miltiades: Notorious Resident Traitor of the CF Boutaniot. I was proved right once again; just two traitors in here. ...yes almost I forgot several mainland turks and other TC partionist of the likes of brainsnomore, fartaway and wrongviewpoint support you M. :roll: Well done! :roll:


Count me in as well..and who do you have on your side ? More than that what kind of producing comment have you made on the thread instead of just crying around like a child!! I guess you did not like TCs helping GCs frineds to sweep out the fasicsts..did you ? :D :D :D :D :D :D


Ierini-Baris, fascists, like the Nazis, are those who divide people into races and invade sovereign countries. If you disagree with somebody this doesn't mean he is "fascist".

You are being racist by trying to imply that everybody who is Greek and uses the Greek flag must be a "fascist". If it wasn't for the fascists and imperialists in UK and Turkey, and Cypriots were allowed to decide the destiny of their own island in a democratic and peaceful way then Cyprus would be part of the Greek Republic along with the other Greek islands.

But in any case, you are free to think of others in any way you want. And you are free to vote for whomever you want. Personally I am glad that those TCs voted in democratic elections and that with your votes those that you supported won.

In a united Cyprus, and with a real democracy, one person - one vote with no racist discriminations, an AKEL/CTP alliance could win every election (unless the center and right parties of the two communities can cooperate as well, which seems less likely)

So why you want to force in Cyprus fascist racist discriminations and you do not accept equality of citizens and a true democracy?


You keep saying the same thing. One person one vote system could be installed to the federal goverment after 20-25 years when people are more mature do not feel angry to anyone that prevented them from joining to Greece or Turkey...I think the same for the freedom of movement it should be limited for first 15-20 years and free after that... We need some time to adapt to the situation otherwise would cause chaos
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Postby Ierini-Baris » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:35 pm

Ierini-Baris wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Ierini-Baris wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Ok fellas let's make an assessment of this thread. One GC came in support of Miltiades: Notorious Resident Traitor of the CF Boutaniot. I was proved right once again; just two traitors in here. ...yes almost I forgot several mainland turks and other TC partionist of the likes of brainsnomore, fartaway and wrongviewpoint support you M. :roll: Well done! :roll:


Count me in as well..and who do you have on your side ? More than that what kind of producing comment have you made on the thread instead of just crying around like a child!! I guess you did not like TCs helping GCs frineds to sweep out the fasicsts..did you ? :D :D :D :D :D :D


Ierini-Baris, fascists, like the Nazis, are those who divide people into races and invade sovereign countries. If you disagree with somebody this doesn't mean he is "fascist".

You are being racist by trying to imply that everybody who is Greek and uses the Greek flag must be a "fascist". If it wasn't for the fascists and imperialists in UK and Turkey, and Cypriots were allowed to decide the destiny of their own island in a democratic and peaceful way then Cyprus would be part of the Greek Republic along with the other Greek islands.

But in any case, you are free to think of others in any way you want. And you are free to vote for whomever you want. Personally I am glad that those TCs voted in democratic elections and that with your votes those that you supported won.

In a united Cyprus, and with a real democracy, one person - one vote with no racist discriminations, an AKEL/CTP alliance could win every election (unless the center and right parties of the two communities can cooperate as well, which seems less likely)

So why you want to force in Cyprus fascist racist discriminations and you do not accept equality of citizens and a true democracy?


You keep saying the same thing. One person one vote system could be installed to the federal goverment after 20-25 years when people are more mature do not feel angry to anyone that prevented them from joining to Greece or Turkey...I think the same for the freedom of movement it should be limited for first 15-20 years and free after that... We need some time to adapt to the situation otherwise would cause chaos


In which way this does not suit the far right ? Who sees TCs as less important than dogs or even worse..I have every right to call them and anyone who support those anything I want. I am not including every right party or anyting I just mentioned that they all have Greek flags. I have friends in all those partys which I lived together so i would not stereotype any community.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:44 pm

Yes Piratis and the Turkish Cypriots would democratically be citizens of another nation today, for one man one vote for you has been reduced to a tool of subversion of the minority to the majority. You have absolutely no idea how this world is run and your infant rantlings that we were dealt a bad hand by the world's powers because they did not giving us the choice to decide on our future shows clearly that you hardly understand the mechanics of world politics. Your naive idea that the world turns around on the axis of the global values of virtue, morality and principles is made worst by our ground record which shows that the majority which we were for 3 years between 1960-1963, saw us taking sick people from hospital beds and execute them. Of course you will tell me that we murdered 100's rather than the 1000's of us murdered by the Turks, Ottomans etc, but this is your predicament.

Perhaps you can now put some names on the murderers, since by now you have come to admit that we soiled our hands with innocent blood. Can you do this for us? Who did the killings and for what reason?
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