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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:49 am

YFred wrote:Come on VP, you have deeper reserve on conscience than that. Your thinking defies all logic.
A fascist yes, but I am sure you are not one.


I have never lived with GCs and I only know them being on the other side of the border in another country called the "ROC" so people who visit the TRNC are tourists to me. Isnt how they feel more important?
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:03 am

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:Come on VP, you have deeper reserve on conscience than that. Your thinking defies all logic.
A fascist yes, but I am sure you are not one.


I have never lived with GCs and I only know them being on the other side of the border in another country called the "ROC" so people who visit the TRNC are tourists to me. Isnt how they feel more important?

No, I lived with them in Cyprus and UK. When you say how they feel, you must not group all GCs as the same. Majority voted for Peace in the last ellection. We all have fears of the unkown, but if France and Germany can have a war, kill millions and make up and trade and live well together, so can we. Its a very small island. We need to trade well together to survive. We all have fears of the future, but we must not block the future of the younger generation. If we pass on the mistakes of the past, it would be such a shame. I appreciate that the TCs were actually much further(I met Ozgur in the 80s with his efforts to peace) down the road of reconciliation then GCs, but they have cought us up on the reconciliation side. For the very first time we have two leaders who genuinely want to have peace. We must not miss this apporotunity, because it would be even more catastrophic for our children.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:55 am

lovernomore wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what about his post is shit?


it is shit because democracy in Cyprus will only wrok for Gcs, not Tcs.

Of coures its one man one vote, everybody now that. But you must no that Tcs will not have sucscess in any part of decent living stadard in Cyprus with the kind of democracy that you wil practice.

How is a Tc ever going to be elected in any goverment offoce in your true democracy. How many Gcs will vote a TC?

This is a dream for you and tcs.

:lol: What makes you think that if you had a TC president under democracy you'd have a better standard of living as opposed to having a GC president? Would all the Turkish Cypriots get a pay rise the next day? :lol:

If anything, you’re going to get screwed if a community arrangement comes to pass but not under democracy.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:05 am

lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”
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Postby utu » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:23 am

Guys, if peace is to prevail on the island, you're going to have to bury the hatchet, and I DON'T mean burying it in your opponent's back. You folk are still perpetuating the bitterness and prejudices of the past by finger-pointing. If there is to be a unified and sovereign state on the island, you're going to have to put aside the events of the past and move forward.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:05 am

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
miltiades wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
miltiades wrote:
lovernomore wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what about his post is shit?


it is shit because democracy in Cyprus will only wrok for Gcs, not Tcs.

Of coures its one man one vote, everybody now that. But you must no that Tcs will not have sucscess in any part of decent living stadard in Cyprus with the kind of democracy that you wil practice.

How is a Tc ever going to be elected in any goverment offoce in your true democracy. How many Gcs will vote a TC?

This is a dream for you and tcs.

Wrong mate , there are thousands upon thousands of Miltiadeses Bananiots , Birkibrislys , Kikapus and Bananiots in Cyprus .


:lol: :lol: :lol: and bananiots, and miltiades and bananiots and ... just 2 traitors. Keep dreaming... :lol: :lol: :lol:


Thank you for provin my point. You see Mr Miltiades, in your democracy any GC vote for TC otomaticly traitors. Tcs have no future in ROC, this is fact.

Mr Lovernomore , why dont you show these G/C extremists that you are not a racist and that given respect you reciprocate by removing the offensive and racist signature , then I can say to these fanatics that here you are , Miltiades by showing respect has received respect. Think about it >


For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.

The process of achieving the utmost must be carried out in an atmosphere of good will and co-operation , lovernomore has conclusively proven that good will is almost always reciprocated .
Thank you Sir .


How about Piratis, Kikapu or Kifeas???


How about it?

What I support is simple:

Democracy
Freedom and Self-determination for Cyprus
Human Rights for all Cypriots
Equality of all Citizens without any racist discrimination or segregation

If you do not accept the above principles, which are applied in all modern civilized countries, then you should blame yourself, not me.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:34 am

Kouroupettos, I told you before, stop behaving like one
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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.


“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”[/
Finally ,
Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:56 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

So which part of your post above has answered the hypothetical TC question...

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

:?:

Finally , Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .

I have nothing to discuss in private with you.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:19 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
lovernomore wrote:For peace in Cyprus I will do what Mr Miltiades ask, I woud also do it for Mr Bananiot.


Here’s the kind of question a Turkish Cypriot would be asking a false prophet like Miltiades, if he were smart…

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

GR , I have told you many times that you talk rubbish .
Everyone on this forum knows where I stand on most issues . As far as rejoicing at the killing of Muslims I wonder why I have on so many occasions made it clear that not only do I not believe in a creator , in religious dogmas or even religious philosophy which has been and still is a cancer on the human race , therefore the killing of Muslims has not been a subject that I have ever involved my self in.
If on the other hand you mean the premeditated indiscriminate killing of innocent men women and children I'm on record many times condemning such barbaric attacks. I'm on record stating quite clearly that the killing of innocents is a crime against humanity . You are on record hating America, have NEVER expressed any signs of aversion towards the perpetrators of such horrific crimes you are absorbed by your personal hatred of America that you have become utterly blind.
You give all this bullshit about caring for the Palestinians , the Iraqis , Afghans etc. How can a man who has expressed such horrific sentiments like INCINERATING the T/Cs which are after all , like it or not , your own compatriots have any GENUINE feelings for others.
You are a hypocrite and regretfully for you everyone can see this. You are a hard nut and it shows.
As for me , well actions speak louder than words. One T/C has connected with my ethics and responded admirably to a request that I made. Does this mean anything to you , and before you say "capitulation "by Miltiades
let me remind you that all on this forum know where I stand on the Cyprus issue , Turkey's occupation of the Northern part of Cyprus , recognition issues , the validity of the RoC and the rights of the T/Cs to call this island their own just as we the G/Cs do . I discard majority /minority issues from the bottom of my heart , if my grandchildren are part of the majority then Halil's grandchildren are too.
(Halil does not have any ..yet )

I find this part of your post offensive but I shall refrain from dissasociating my self with its contents since I have NEVER been associated with even one iota of any part of your accusation.

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

So which part of your post above has answered the hypothetical TC question...

“When NATO starts running out of Muslims elsewhere, will you then cheer on an attack against Turkish Cypriots, and if not why not? Are Turkish Cypriots “better” Muslims than the ones you wanted dead earlier?”

:?:

Finally , Will you kindly respond to my PM to you .

I have nothing to discuss in private with you.

You are immature , rather childish and a spoiled sport. I can imagine you in politics !! If a G/C such as you can not even debate with a fellow G/C whom he has never met , how on earth would you discuss anything with a T/C.
You proved my point that you are a total waste of time when it comes to dealing with the Cyprob or for that matter world affairs .
Grow up mate , at least I have a heart and it is real .
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