Piratis wrote:miltiades wrote:As per usual you are talking rubbish , haven't much time to respond in length to this nonsense but will do so later today .
You are a joke , everyone knows it and I think you should join the murderous terrorists that are Hamas , Hezbollah and of course your all time favourites Al Qeada.
Your contribution towards a solution to the Cyprus problem is not only abysmal it is disgraceful , you have ignored every fundamental rule of diplomacy and have added ammunition to the extreme T/Cs who want nothing to do with G/Cs . Their resolve towards partition has been greatly strengthened by your vulgarity and utter disregard of their concerns.
Don't be silly , the forum needs all opinions , yours is one of them , even your statement on "Chistofias " and your revolution with your 15 mates.
Be a man face it , Miltiades enjoys the support of the vast majority on this forum because of his honesty and consistency, the support of mostly all T/Cs , Brits and all of the G/Cs minus the extremists .
Stay on and fight dont put your tail between your legs and hide.
Miltiades, how do you suggest that the Palestinians fight for their freedom? You call Hamas and Hezbollah "terrorists", but the fact is that the terror is coming from Israel, and the Palestinians don't have a big army to go on a "normal" war with Israel to defend their rights, and that is why they are forced to fight in that way.
Give to the Palestinians fighter Jets, precision missiles, high tech tanks etc, and then they wouldn't need to be "terrorists" anymore. They would make war and fight in the "normal" way.
You could say of course that there is no need to fight, they can just solve their problem with negotiations peacefully. But that is not realistic. We have first hand experience that when you are the weak side you can not gain your rights and freedom with negotiations.
Maybe we have the luxury to waste our time with negotiations because not all of our country is occupied and we have a high standard of living, but the Palestinians do not have this luxury. We also have a recognized country and we can fight with other means, through EU for example. Again, the Palestinians don't have this.
Piratis , the first step that the Palestinians ought to take is to recognize the right of Israel to exist. Without this step taken all efforts to reach a settlement will always end up in conflict where the innocent men women and children will pay the ultimate penalty .
So far such steps to recognise Israel's right to exist are ignored. The fact of the matter is that ISRAEL IS THERE TO STAY . It is a nuclear nation and enjoys the support of the USA . The Palestinians have suffered immensely most of the punishment deriving from their own leadership who fails to adopt the pragmatic approach that should be adopted , that of negotiations based on respecting the right of Israel to exist and demanding the same right is extended to them.
Their last popular leader turned out to have been a disaster for the Palestinian people amassing millions of dollars in overseas accounts for his exclusive benefit.
May I vociferously disagree with your statement that our negotiations are a waste of time , that is what you are saying . We negotiate because financially we are not affected therefore we can indulge in "meaningless " negotiations.
No Piratis , we negotiate because that IS THE CORRECT process that will lead to a viable and a just FOR ALL solution. The UN , the EU , the US as well as Russia WANT US to continue negotiations , every single International organization want us to continue negotiations.
Our goal must be the unification of our island for the sake of our future generations , I have never tolerated capitulation and I have never accepted the status quo but have always insisted on my principles that this island of ours must be the rightful home also to our T/C compatriots.
The persistence in elaborating historical realities 1571 , 1958 , 1963 and 1974 must be curtailed , our children must learn to live with the present and not the past.
Turkey is in violation of our rights as Cypriots in restricting us from enjoying all of our land , but to the T/Cs Turkey is providing a life line .
Let us continue the negotiations and let us hope that the Palestinians abandon the all or nothing approach and help to establish peace in this part of the M.E.
Why do I support the right of Israel to exist ? UN supports Israel's right to exist , the EU supports it too along with every single Westrern nation including Cyprus .
