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[miltiades]

I know that we have had threads on this subject before , just cant help feeling pleased that the rather naive and irresponsible Brits looking for something off the back of a lorry are now speedily approaching their comeuppances !! Most , alas , are highly oblivious of the recent 50 years of Cypriot history , neither was anyone the slightest bit interested in the political situation , cheapskates all of them , bet they are sweating now !
Britons who bought holiday homes in Northern Cyprus may be forced to pay thousands of pounds in damages to the original Greek Cypriot owners of the land, following a ruling by the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. The judgment, expected later this year, will conclude a case that began in 2005, when a Cypriot court ordered a British couple, Linda and David Orams, to demolish their villa to pay compensation to Meledis Apostolides — the Greek Cypriot legal owner of the land. Like many other Britons, the Orams bought the land from Turkish Cypriots who took ownership illegally following the Turkish invasion of 1974, when an estimated 170,000 Greek Cypriots fled their homes. The case was referred to the EU court after the Orams opposed the ruling. The Advocate General, whose opinion is usually followed, has backed the Greek Cypriots. If this opinion is upheld, damages to the dispossessed population could be enforced against any assets owned elsewhere in the EU by non-Greek property owners.


http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l ... 767404.ece

[RichardB]

As you say miltiades this has been resurrected numerous times on forum.

it was pretty obvious that one day things would catch up with the carpetbaggers.

A quick look around the English speaking 'north cyprus' forums only serves as evidence of a group shitting their pants in unison.

Still they live in their little dreamland relying on Turkey to bail them out
and its just not gonna happen is it? Does anyone think that Turkey really gives a shit about them? they've got the money havn't they

As as been said on numerous occasions ''serves the buggers right''

[miltiades]

As you say miltiades this has been resurrected numerous times on forum.

it was pretty obvious that one day things would catch up with the carpetbaggers.

A quick look around the English speaking 'north cyprus' forums only serves as evidence of a group shitting their pants in unison.

Still they live in their little dreamland relying on Turkey to bail them out
and its just not gonna happen is it? Does anyone think that Turkey really gives a shit about them? they've got the money havn't they

As as been said on numerous occasions ''serves the buggers right''

It will be interesting to go on to these forums , any links Richard ?

[RichardB]

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/default.asp

have a quick look around this one

[YFred]

Miltiades,
Surely UK citizens who bought GC property in the north will be afforded the same deal as the TCs.
What's wrong with that?
From the GC point of view it should not make any difference?

They must pay the same as any TC would pay under the same circumstances. The root of this situation stems from a TC selling them the property. I do not see why you are aggressive with them.
You seeing them as receiving stolen property is rather simplistic, I would expect certain forumers to say that.

[Viewpoint]

I still cant see what will change if there is no solution, can someone enlighten us? The Brit has purchased disputed land and has been put through the legal mill but has no assets out of the TRNC. What difference will these rulings make? and what will be the international backlash if a Brit is arrested.

[bill cobbett]

I still cant see what will change if there is no solution, can someone enlighten us? The Brit has purchased disputed land and has been put through the legal mill but has no assets out of the TRNC. What difference will these rulings make? and what will be the international backlash if a Brit is arrested.

It's a major spanner in the works for those who feel it's ok to deal in stolen lands. You should know this.

[RichardB]

I still cant see what will change if there is no solution, can someone enlighten us? The Brit has purchased disputed land and has been put through the legal mill but has no assets out of the TRNC. What difference will these rulings make? and what will be the international backlash if a Brit is arrested.

Until there is a solution and if the Brits have no assets in a EU country then I would say you are probably right viewpoint.

If the person has assets within the EU then these can be confiscated and used to compensate the aggrieved party.

It would also mean that if the person returned to an EU country then they would be liable to arrest.

So either way if there is a settlement they will lose if not they will be unable to return or have any assets within the EU

I know I certainly wouldn't want to live under those constraints

I suppose it could open up a whole can of worms also regarding benificaries of their estate should there be a death

[miltiades]

Miltiades,
Surely UK citizens who bought GC property in the north will be afforded the same deal as the TCs.
What's wrong with that?
From the GC point of view it should not make any difference?

They must pay the same as any TC would pay under the same circumstances. The root of this situation stems from a TC selling them the property. I do not see why you are aggressive with them.
You seeing them as receiving stolen property is rather simplistic, I would expect certain forumers to say that.

Fred , I only know of one English man who bought property in the northern Cyprus. This guy wouldn't give a shit if the property he bought belong to me whom he has known over a number of years , as far as he was concerned it was a bargain , he could holiday there enjoy the sun the beer and birds.!
What I do not understand is how on earth can anyone from Brittain invest money in a part of Cyprus which by all international edicts is occupied by Turkey and a good chance that the property they bought was sold to them not by the legal owner but by an authority which is not recognised in legal terms as the proper owner of the land. These Brits are mostly the Sun reader type , page 3 tits , coronation street Eastenders addicts with brains not in their head but in their arses. Come on mate , every single nation on earth knows that this part of Cyprus is occupied by Turkey therefore any transactions regarding property must surely warrant caution. Where was the caution when the Orams bought "their " property . It serves them right and many T/Cs feel exactly the same way as I do.
Would you invest money in property that you thought belonged to a G/C ?
I dont think so Fred .

[bill cobbett]

I still cant see what will change if there is no solution, can someone enlighten us? The Brit has purchased disputed land and has been put through the legal mill but has no assets out of the TRNC. What difference will these rulings make? and what will be the international backlash if a Brit is arrested.

Until there is a solution and if the Brits have no assets in a EU country then I would say you are probably right viewpoint.

If the person has assets within the EU then these can be confiscated and used to compensate the aggrieved party.

It would also mean that if the person returned to an EU country then they would be liable to arrest.


So either way if there is a settlement they will lose if not they will be unable to return or have any assets within the EU

I know I certainly wouldn't want to live under those constraints

I suppose it could open up a whole can of worms also regarding benificaries of their estate should there be a death

GB law is quite clear. The estate of a deceased person in probate is liable to claims from third parties. The executors would have to settle these claims before passing on any remainder to beneficiaries.