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[shahmaran]

Ottoman-Turks have never sought permission for what they do. They set their sights on land acquisition, take, and then make up the excuses later. They know their people will never fail them, by questioning their methods and doubting their "justification" ... ask Bananiot, he knows Turks should be spoon-fed all they want!.

I dont remember you taking permissions to murder me in my own lands.

Turkey on the other hand did and got it

[YFred]

YFred wrote:

Crap is something you are very good at. Of all people you should be able to recognise it from miles away.
You can re-write the Cyprus History, but not European. Whatever their problems, there was no problems like in Cyprus of 1963 up to 74. People killed and dumped into wells.

Stop talking out of your arse and face reality, before its too late.

yfred

google Sudetenland and you will see all you need re the reasons?? (excuses) the Nazis needed for invasion .The similarities between this and the turkish Invasion of Cyprus are very similar in many ways

The sudeten germans were not about to be wiped out. There is no comparison.
As to discrimination in the hands of the Majority, you had to live in Cyprus to see it.
The TC's suffered the same Discrimination in the hands of the RoC. Racism and discrimination was institutional in the hands of those who were in power.

[RichardB]

YFred wrote:

Crap is something you are very good at. Of all people you should be able to recognise it from miles away.
You can re-write the Cyprus History, but not European. Whatever their problems, there was no problems like in Cyprus of 1963 up to 74. People killed and dumped into wells.

Stop talking out of your arse and face reality, before its too late.

yfred

google Sudetenland and you will see all you need re the reasons?? (excuses) the Nazis needed for invasion .The similarities between this and the turkish Invasion of Cyprus are very similar in many ways

The sudeten germans were not about to be wiped out. There is no comparison.
As to discrimination in the hands of the Majority, you had to live in Cyprus to see it.
The TC's suffered the same Discrimination in the hands of the RoC. Racism and discrimination was institutional in the hands of those who were in power.

It is a matter of conjecture whether the TCs were going to be wiped out. The similarity is the Turkish Govt (military )used this peceived?threat as a pretext for an invasion as did the Nazis

The similarities dont end there The minority sudeten Germans were demanding a free state (taksim?) and the help they got was from Big Brother Nazi Germany

Some one has also commented (it may have been yourself,apologies if not), that the Nazi invasion was pure expansionism It seems to me that with the now numbers of settlers now established in the north that this was also Turkeys aim .

I appreciate your comment that 'you had to be there to see it' but I like many others have been told stories by family and friends of these events (I dare say like the greater percentage of those on forum ) I have read and researched and come up with my own opinions on the subject

[Get Real!]

What's wrong with the Greek Education System?

Btw Y-Fronts... ever wonder about the TC Education System?

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... ge5069.htm

Have fun!

[Get Real!]

It is a matter of conjecture whether the TCs were going to be wiped out.

You mean TC convenient speculation...

[RichardB]

It is a matter of conjecture whether the TCs were going to be wiped out.

You mean TC convenient speculation...

i was trying to be diplomatic... but ok yes

[Tim Drayton]

Perhaps, one of our Turkish friends can enlighten us. I just can't believe that Darwin's theory is excluded fron the Biology lessons and is equated to Creationism. I thought that this was only an American problem. I did not realise that It was much wider.
Over here in UK, we have no such problem.

In Turkey, the education ministry was quite heavily infiltrated by Islamists when ANAP was in power in the 1980's (especially when Hasan Celal Güzel was minister of education). One of the reults of this is that, as far as I know, the amount of space on the curriculum devoted to evolution was reduced considerably. I think it is only taught at secondary level on certain advanced biology courses, such as at specialist Science High Schools. Even then, probably no more than one lesson is assigned to this subject, and some teachers probably gloss over it if they do not feel comfortable about handling the subject.

[Tim Drayton]

Just for the record, section IX. II of the final year high school biology curriculum in Turkey covers the following:

II. Views concerning the evolution of living beings
A.Lamarck's views on evolution
B.Darwin's views on evolution

[Oracle]

Just for the record, section IX. II of the final year high school biology curriculum in Turkey covers the following:

II. Views concerning the evolution of living beings
A.Lamarck's views on evolution
B.Darwin's views on evolution

I wonder how they are actually taught!

Is Dawkins still banned?

[Oracle]

Ottoman-Turks have never sought permission for what they do. They set their sights on land acquisition, take, and then make up the excuses later. They know their people will never fail them, by questioning their methods and doubting their "justification" ... ask Bananiot, he knows Turks should be spoon-fed all they want!.

I dont remember you taking permissions to murder me in my own lands.

Turkey on the other hand did and got it

Well since you never were murdered (in any lands), we can safely assume that it was not on the agenda! A case of an over-ripe, misinformed imagination ....

As for your lesson to us, about Turkish "smash and grab" ... we're well seasoned with how Turkey has expanded her Empire (still does, look out EU!).