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[Tim Drayton]

You have turned an otherwise interesting discussion thread into a vindictive hounding!

Let us look at some of the twists and turns of this fascinating discussion shall we.

1. Based on the text of an introduction to an academic work examining certain phonetic correspondences between Mongoilan and Turkish, you conclude that "Turks are Mongols" (please don't say you haven't - you have made many statements to this effect in this thread).

2. You quote a detailed historical narrative in which you chose to highlight the words:

"when the Mongols ransacked Baghdad"

The conclusion here is that if a particular people behave in one way in one place and time in history, this is how they always behave. The Mongols ransacked Baghdad, so the Mongols are destructive barbarians.

(In fact, over the course of history both speakers of Turkic languages and of Mongolian have, at different times and in different places been nomads, pastoral people, warriors, marauders and have also established large settled polities which were as advanced as any other at the time. Also, in common with Baghdad, various cities populated by Turkish speakers were ransacked by Mongols, and at various times peoples speaking Turkic languages have come under the Mongol yoke. Let us leave this to one side because it will only obfuscate matters.)

This leads to the grand conclusion.

Turks are Mongols.
Mongols are barbarians who wreak havoc wherever they go.

I will leave others to draw the logical conclusion (clue: think "Socrates" and "mortal").

What a load of infantile drivel. I do not have the time and energy to go through this chain of reasoning point by point and show what nonsense it is. If this is an "interesting discusion" then by all means continue it uninterrupted. I am off now.

[CopperLine]

Tim Drayton,
I respect your efforts in providing argument and evidence in the way that you do in the face of stark staring madness. You have the patience of ..... I was going to say 'a saint', but that would be inappropriate given my next comment :

What's wrong with the Greek education system (by which I take it to mean the Greek Cypriot) is, in my view, straightforward in one respect. Wherever one has clerics, the high priests of unreason and superstition, determining the curriculum then we will have disaster upon disaster to the Nth generation. Who will rid us of these troublesome priests ?

[Bananiot]

I think the present Minister of Educationis doing a good job to this end. The vultures have jumped on him of course and we are in for a long struggle. It is worth noting who sides with the old and who with the new.

[Get Real!]

I think the present Minister of Educationis doing a good job to this end. The vultures have jumped on him of course and we are in for a long struggle. It is worth noting who sides with the old and who with the new.

It's the Turkish Cypriot education you should be more concerned about… have you even bothered to have a glimpse?

[Oracle]

@ Tim

I believe Admin have contacted you to explain I was not that "Chinese" member you accused me of being. What you do with the information is up to you.

However, if you were judging me all this time with the assumption that I was, it may explain why I attracted so many unfounded accusations from you, which have baffled me for their out of context nature and incomprehensible assertions.
That's why I treat each post as it comes; the post (content significant) is more important than the "poster" (of nature unknown). But what you believed I said, was more important to you than what I actually said in each of my posts, whose contents you ignored in favour of your own assumptions about a perceived persona. Just carry on talking to your own imagination then.

What a bloody waste of time!