Viewpoint wrote:Piratis wrote:The fact of the matter is that we have the right to unite with whomever we want.
How could it be fine if Cyprus was part of the Ottoman or British empires, against the will of the native Cypriots, but not fine for Cyprus to be part of the Greek Republic, if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?
You attacked and you continue to attack us in order to prevent Cyprus from being free. This is the Cyprus problem.
If it wasn't for the Turkish aggression and expansionism there wouldn't even be Turks in Cyprus to begin with.
See this is exactly where you go wrong being the majority does not mean you can do what you want to the detrement of others, if you all voted to behead female adultesses would that be right? There are somethings where you cannto disregard the opinion of a large percentage of your population escpecially when you ask them to sign their own death warrant.
But I never said that the majority can do whatever it wants on the detriment of others. This is only what you say.
Beheading female adulteresses is a human right violation. We never asked for the human rights of anybody to be violated. (this is what you are asking for, and you seek derogations from the EU aquis)
What we asked is what we had every right for. Our self-determination and freedom from foreign rulers. And self-determination means that you can democratically decide to unite with others. This is not something which violates the human rights of anybody.
In fact there is a UN resolution about decolonization that clearly states that " integration into an independent State" is one of the "three legitimate options of full self-government."
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm
So how can you compare our right for self-determination with a crime like "Beheading female adulteresses"?? On the contrary, the crime was denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination, and the Turks did behead many innocent people in order to prevent Cyprus from being free:
During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.
And in the 1950s, while we were again fighting against the British for our right for self-determination, you again choose to attack us in order to deny to us our rights.
And to excuse the crimes that you committed and which let us to the inter-communal conflict and the war of 74, you are trying to present our desire for freedom and self-determination as supposedly something terrible and wrong. You do this by using baseless and imaginary scenarios which have nothing to do with reality. The reality is that Cypriots wanted their self-determination which was their right and we have been attacked by you.
So don't put words in my mouth. What I support is democracy and a true democracy, the one you never allowed to exist in Cyprus, is one were all citizens are equal, one person one vote, and were you have majority rule AND human and minority rights.
So stop trying to make the lame argument that democracy and majority rule means no human or minority rights, and that if we have democracy all hell will break loose.