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[Viewpoint]

Mitliades, irespec you and pople like you, Bananiot is a good man. You want to forget past? look for future? OK, get Piraits, Oracel, GR , Sotos Kifeas to admit to crimees against Tcs and appllogise . After I will stop postin like this and post consturctive.

There's just not enough life time for you Ottomans to apologize for all the horrendous crimes you've committed but you can start by saying “sorry” to the people you’re meant to coexist with for three centuries of crimes against them…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... age731.htm

this is crazy, how you can hold me repsonsible for crimes in 1571. Lets be realisitic, your name GET REAL? lets talk real time, we are not dinasoures you know?

How about the crimes you are commiting today? How about the crimes you committed in 1974? How about the crimes you started to commit since 1958 and you continued in the 60s?

Even if we exclude the 3+ centuries of Ottoman oppression, which only started in 1571 but continued until 1878, the Turks/TCs have still committed a lot more crimes against us, than we committed against you. So how can you demand an apology without you be willing to give an apology for the far more crimes you committed against us?

Piratis you are like a big child always playing the numbers game when trying to attribute blame, the fact of the matter is you aspirations to gift Cyprus to Greece you trappled over our rights whcih would have meant signing our own death warrant..well you played a dangerous game which culminated in division get over it. Think about how you will compromise in a united Cyprus with a BBF political equality structure.

[Piratis]

The fact of the matter is that we have the right to unite with whomever we want.

How could it be fine if Cyprus was part of the Ottoman or British empires, against the will of the native Cypriots, but not fine for Cyprus to be part of the Greek Republic, if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?

You attacked and you continue to attack us in order to prevent Cyprus from being free. This is the Cyprus problem.

If it wasn't for the Turkish aggression and expansionism there wouldn't even be Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

[insan]

Mitliades, irespec you and pople like you, Bananiot is a good man. You want to forget past? look for future? OK, get Piraits, Oracel, GR , Sotos Kifeas to admit to crimees against Tcs and appllogise . After I will stop postin like this and post consturctive.

There's just not enough life time for you Ottomans to apologize for all the horrendous crimes you've committed but you can start by saying “sorry” to the people you’re meant to coexist with for three centuries of crimes against them…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... age731.htm

GR! u might open another thread how aliens(better say domestic violence and so-called Europeanization) commited genocide in ur "mom's" country Greece.

http://www.populstat.info/Europe/greecec.htm
http://www.populstat.info/Asia/cyprusc.htm

I'm sure u r able to analyze the numbers in correlation with each other.

[miltiades]

Mitliades, irespec you and pople like you, Bananiot is a good man. You want to forget past? look for future? OK, get Piraits, Oracel, GR , Sotos Kifeas to admit to crimees against Tcs and appllogise . After I will stop postin like this and post consturctive.

There's just not enough life time for you Ottomans to apologize for all the horrendous crimes you've committed but you can start by saying “sorry” to the people you’re meant to coexist with for three centuries of crimes against them…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... age731.htm

this is crazy, how you can hold me repsonsible for crimes in 1571. Lets be realisitic, your name GET REAL? lets talk real time, we are not dinasoures you know?

How about the crimes you are commiting today? How about the crimes you committed in 1974? How about the crimes you started to commit since 1958 and you continued in the 60s?

Even if we exclude the 3+ centuries of Ottoman oppression, which only started in 1571 but continued until 1878, the Turks/TCs have still committed a lot more crimes against us, than we committed against you. So how can you demand an apology without you be willing to give an apology for the far more crimes you committed against us?

How do you think the continuation of laying blame on the Turkish Cypriots will help the Cyprus cause any more than the perpetuation of the Turkish- mainland sponsored myths of a genocide taking place against the T/Cs which necessitated their " intervention " ?
Are we serious about reconciliation and unification , if we are then our priorities must be the laying of foundations that will enable all Cypriots to be part of our nation regardless of past "historical" events.
I still believe that abandoning the chains that kept us as a nation away from our true motherland , the island of Cyprus , would help to heal our wounds for ever. Flying another nations flag , singing another nations anthem is contradictory to our worldwide accepted nationality that of Cypriot.
I see absolutely nothing to be ashamed at being a Cypriot first and foremost. What unites me with my Cypriot friends is our common ground , the Cyprus that we all love.

[insan]

I see absolutely nothing to be ashamed at being a Cypriot first and foremost. What unites me with my Cypriot friends is our common ground , the Cyprus that we all love.

Miltiades, at this point I agree with u. However most of us almost do nothing to improve our feelings and mentality to prove that we r genuinely have a will if not desire to become Cypriot nation. How about a proposal for CF a new section "Learning Turkish" and "Learning Greek", even "Learning Armenian". Someone should do something to make Cypriot nation real. I personally don't mind being/called a Cypriot, Turkish, Greek, Mongol, Japanese or whatever as a person being born in Cyprus as far as i know from the "real Turkish" descendants. However i am suspicious about my grand-grand-grand Ma whether she was an indigenous female of Cyprus or something else. Whatever descendent she was it doesn't matter anyway... I guess in the begining there were only Adam and Eve, if not; 2 embryonic "apes" at least.

[Get Real!]

Mitliades, irespec you and pople like you, Bananiot is a good man. You want to forget past? look for future? OK, get Piraits, Oracel, GR , Sotos Kifeas to admit to crimees against Tcs and appllogise . After I will stop postin like this and post consturctive.

There's just not enough life time for you Ottomans to apologize for all the horrendous crimes you've committed but you can start by saying “sorry” to the people you’re meant to coexist with for three centuries of crimes against them…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... age731.htm

GR! u might open another thread how aliens(better say domestic violence and so-called Europeanization) commited genocide in ur "mom's" country Greece.

http://www.populstat.info/Europe/greecec.htm
http://www.populstat.info/Asia/cyprusc.htm

I'm sure u r able to analyze the numbers in correlation with each other.

I'm not interested in Greece... let the Greeks look into that.

[Viewpoint]

The fact of the matter is that we have the right to unite with whomever we want.

How could it be fine if Cyprus was part of the Ottoman or British empires, against the will of the native Cypriots, but not fine for Cyprus to be part of the Greek Republic, if this is what the vast majority of Cypriots themselves wanted?

You attacked and you continue to attack us in order to prevent Cyprus from being free. This is the Cyprus problem.

If it wasn't for the Turkish aggression and expansionism there wouldn't even be Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

See this is exactly where you go wrong being the majority does not mean you can do what you want to the detrement of others, if you all voted to behead female adultesses would that be right? There are somethings where you cannto disregard the opinion of a large percentage of your population escpecially when you ask them to sign their own death warrant.

[utu]

I personally believe that a lot of the Turk and Turkish Cypriot haters on this forum DON'T want any solution and want to retain the status quo. Judging from their statements, they need something to hate in order to survive. Remove the Turkish occupation, have the island reunited, and have the island populace living in an indepenent and peaceful Cyprus, and the end result is that their lives will figurtively cease to exist as there will be no hate to give rheir lives meaning. Their purpose in life is simply to hate Turks...

[miltiades]

I personally believe that a lot of the Turk and Turkish Cypriot haters on this forum DON'T want any solution and want to retain the status quo. Judging from their statements, they need something to hate in order to survive. Remove the Turkish occupation, have the island reunited, and have the island populace living in an indepenent and peaceful Cyprus, and the end result is that their lives will figurtively cease to exist as there will be no hate to give rheir lives meaning. Their purpose in life is simply to hate Turks...

So in other words just as they need food to sustain them and keep them alive they also need a good portion of hate to keep their brain functioning !!
Its a well known fact that most humans do have something to hate , but when a hate is directed at a group of people with whom like it or not you have to interact in order to survive then its a stupid hate.
I have a number of issues that cause me to detest totally , I dont know about hate but most certainly such issues really annoy me.
The individual who quite premeditatingly and purposely targets a group of innocent bystanders as his victims and blows himself up is at the top of my aversion list along with those who encouraged and conditioned this human in believing that his evil act was blessed by God, or in the case of the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka a nationalistic imperative.

I beleive that the overwhelming majority of Cypriots do not harbour hatred towards their fellow Cypriots , I know literally hundreds of T/Cs none I may add has ever given me a reason to suspect that hatred towards me was in their heart. Is it because when genuinely yourself does not have even the slightest amount of hate humans respond accordingly ?

[Bananiot]

I agree utu and the same goes for haters in both communities. What is tragic about this is that until now haters have had everything go their way. Most people seem scared to challenge their bigotry, which is wrongly equated with patriotism. On the bright side, I am beginning to see some serious change taking place, at least in the Greek Cypriot side.