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[miltiades]

I agree with your views Milti, the poison spouted on this site does nothing to improve relations between the two sides, it's completely counterproductive. Both sides have been wronged but there is a difference between Greece and Turkey. Greece has almost let go of the Cyprus Problem and is willing for Cypriots to determine their own future whilst Turkey appears to be determined to maintain some sort of hold on the island. The sins of Greece were in the past whilst Turkey's are still remain. If Turkey stood back a little from the Cyprus Problem, as Greece has done, a solution would soon be found.

Let us help in the creation of an atmosphere where Turkey's importance to the T/Cs diminishes by the day not increases as we see happening.
We do not depend on Greece having realized that we can stand on our own feet , can the T/Cs do so at the moment ?

[miltiades]

My only concern is that there are Cypriots like Miltiades who equate Greece with Turkey, as being foreign.

I notice also that removal of the Turkish troops was about fifth in your list of things we have to solve, when it should be prime.

Shame ...

Now madam , read again what I said about removal of foreign troops !!

"""What are the primary concerns facing the majority of Cypriots ?
Security must rank high , removal of foreign troops even higher ...."

As far as Equating Greece with Turkey as being foreign nations , it is the ONLY WAY, if we are genuine about wanting to live side by side with our T/C compatriots, and they with us , as one people , one identity one common motherland then the two related nations must take secondary position.
I have never advocated the abandonment of the word Greek or Turkish when describing a Cypriot , or Armenian for that matter .I have always referred to myself as a Greek Cypriot with the proviso that Cypriot is the ultimate expression of my nationality as shown by my ID card.
As far you is concerned , I have told you a myriad times , your contribution to a peaceful resolution to the Cyprus problem is as beneficial as pouring petrol onto a fire.
Have you gained any trust from any T/C on this forum , have you instilled in any T/C one iota of hope that if united their safety will be equally revered as that of the safety of any other Cypriot ?
I have !

No dear. In your FIRST "paragraph". You said ...

Our goal , that of the G/Cs , T/Cs and others must surely be the unification of our island , the permanent removal of conflict , mistrust and damaging doctrines , and of course the removal of foreign troops from our shores and the introduction of a durable "

And no, you are quite wrong about calling Greece "foreign" as a way to solve the Cyprus Problem.

But I am vindicated in that you have finally admitted, that it is a reaction to the Turks, and a consequence of appeasing Turks, that you so cowardly betray your ancestors!

My views on Turkey are quite well known , I have not mentioned Turks as you put but T/C s.
My ancestors were ALL Cypriots first and foremost, none could be said to have been a KALAMARAS , All were KIPREI .
I can be a proud G/C just as Deniz can be a proud T/C , but let me tell you I do not consider Deniz a Turk but a T/C , big big difference.

[YFred]

I agree with your views Milti, the poison spouted on this site does nothing to improve relations between the two sides, it's completely counterproductive. Both sides have been wronged but there is a difference between Greece and Turkey. Greece has almost let go of the Cyprus Problem and is willing for Cypriots to determine their own future whilst Turkey appears to be determined to maintain some sort of hold on the island. The sins of Greece were in the past whilst Turkey's are still remain. If Turkey stood back a little from the Cyprus Problem, as Greece has done, a solution would soon be found.

Let us help in the creation of an atmosphere where Turkey's importance to the T/Cs diminishes by the day not increases as we see happening.
We do not depend on Greece having realized that we can stand on our own feet , can the T/Cs do so at the moment ?

Not while our hands are tied behind our backs.
All you have to do is remove trade restrictions and see which way the TCs move. You may be surprised.

[Bananiot]

YFred

I just hope that Christofias is not another Papadobullos, for all our sakes.

Perhaps he is not, for ane of the more patriotic members of the forum recently referred to him as "Chistofias".

[YFred]

YFred

I just hope that Christofias is not another Papadobullos, for all our sakes.

Perhaps he is not, for ane of the more patriotic members of the forum recently referred top him as "Chistofias".

I have noticed that, which is why my hope for settlement suddenly jumped sky high.

[miltiades]

YFred

I just hope that Christofias is not another Papadobullos, for all our sakes.

Perhaps he is not, for ane of the more patriotic members of the forum recently referred to him as "Chistofias".

I also noted this along with his "commitment" to a peaceful resolution !!

[Get Real!]

For as long as the Turkish Cypriots keep peddling ridiculous excuses as to why they should have political advantages over the rest, instead of settling down with the rest of the Cypriots as equal citizens, the media wars will continue!

[denizaksulu]

My only concern is that there are Cypriots like Miltiades who equate Greece with Turkey, as being foreign.

I notice also that removal of the Turkish troops was about fifth in your list of things we have to solve, when it should be prime.

Shame ...

Oracle, at least it is on the list. Milti's post and his sentiments should wake us all up to what we should all desire.

Dont you dream of having me as your neighbor one day?

[lovernomore]

For as long as the Turkish Cypriots keep peddling ridiculous excuses as to why they should have political advantages over the rest, instead of settling down with the rest of the Cypriots as equal citizens, the media wars will continue!

Equal just like 1960-1974.

[miltiades]

For as long as the Turkish Cypriots keep peddling ridiculous excuses as to why they should have political advantages over the rest, instead of settling down with the rest of the Cypriots as equal citizens, the media wars will continue!

Equal just like 1960-1974.

Here we go again , a typical example of what I meant with this post.
Its asseholes that caused all the problems in Cyprus , assholes who are still farting away about the past , not uttering one constructive word that would help our people come to terms with events of the past and concentrate on the future.
Enough is bloody enough mate .