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[insan]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave,

If history is anything to go by, the safety issue is not that of the Turkish Cypriots from the Greek Cypriots, but that of the Greek Cypriots from the Turkish Cypriots collaborating with Turks.

Depends on who writes "history".

It's written by the UN and records thousands of GC victims versus one hundred odd TC victims so think again! Who really needs safety?

It was Enosists that combatted against Turks and TCs during Turkish intervention. Most of them died dring the combat. U should pray God(if u a believer) that Turkey didn't launch a 3rd phase of intervention to ward off all those EOKA-B irregulars that none could be arrested till 1976, then all forgiven with an amnesty. Had Turkey launched a 3rd phase of intervention to ward off those EOKA-B irregulars the bloodshed would have been way too much... Blame ur Enosists and irreglars of EOKA-B instead of Turkey for the bloodshed in 1974.

[Get Real!]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave,

If history is anything to go by, the safety issue is not that of the Turkish Cypriots from the Greek Cypriots, but that of the Greek Cypriots from the Turkish Cypriots collaborating with Turks.

Depends on who writes "history".

It's written by the UN and records thousands of GC victims versus one hundred odd TC victims so think again! Who really needs safety?

It was Enosists that combatted against Turks and TCs during Turkish intervention. Most of them died dring the combat. U should pray God(if u a believer) that Turkey didn't launch a 3rd phase of intervention to ward off all those EOKA-B irregulars that none could be arrested till 1976, then all forgiven with an amnesty. Had Turkey launched a 3rd phase of intervention to ward off those EOKA-B irregulars the bloodshed would have been way too much... Blame ur Enosists and irreglars of EOKA-B instead of Turkey for the bloodshed in 1974.

When it comes to the safety issue today, one needs to ask…

Who is the most likely to get butchered in the event of a war due to an imbalance of military power?

And the answer to that is the Greek Cypriots.

What happened in the past and why, are all irrelevant to answering this simple question today.

[Get Real!]

Insan,

The Turkish Cypriots are not worried about THEIR safety, but the safety (preservation) of their proposed undemocratic political aspirations!

Two different things aren’t they?

[insan]

Insan,

The Turkish Cypriots are not worried about THEIR safety, but the safety (preservation) of their proposed undemocratic political aspirations!

Two different things aren’t they?

Well, most of the left wing intellectuals r worried about proposed and assumed that accepted consociational democracy, aspirations. Right wing TC intellectuals r worried about both their safety and political equality aspirations. The rest of the TCs either follow one or another.

[Piratis]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave, obviously that wont work for you because you would first have to pull your head out of your arse and see that Turkey is here because our neighbours really can be violent bastards and Turkey is not here to stay.

Plus I know all about the EU spirit and I can tell you for sure that it does not exist in Cyprus, the only reason corrupt "ROC" ever made it in there was because the Greeks have been the historical suck ups of the European big boys, that's all.

Why else would a corrupt country which doesn't even fall into "Europe" be in the EU?

Turkey is an occupying force. If Turks were not the imperialistic aggressive scumbags that they are then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

Cyprus is a Greek island, and the Greek civilization is the basis of the European civilization.

The Turks on the other hand are Muslims from Mongolia, and they have nothing in common with the European civilization. (or any civilization for that matter)

[Viewpoint]

That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ...

The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...

They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!

Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...

Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.

I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.

Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?

Since when murdering the innocent natives of this country and dumping them into mass graves, starving your fellow Cypriots, stopping your fellow Cypriots from owning decent businesses, sabotaging their existence into persuading them to leave their own country called defence Piratis, you are an absolute idiot who can do nothing but push the same bullshit fantasy story at every opportunity, not even your fellow GC's buy it (apart from that Nazi) lady. You were on a racist mission and you fucked it up, get over it.

Change the tune Piratis

Well said, Piratis will never realize that he like us will pay for his sins by compromising, the 1960 agreements whcih he detests were a result of his own actions and tailored to suit the times. The AP was yet another attempt at bringing resolve to an a sensative problem. Piratis does not understand that the world does not view them worthy of running the country fair and just thats why safeguards have to be diliberated in order to make sure they act in accordance with the EU spirit of sharing and treating everyone as equals becuase without those safeguards the world knows we TCs will be placing our heads on a chopping block waiting for the "majority" to use their right to excute us all in the "legal" name of democracy.

You know nothing about EU spirit. This is why Cyprus and Greece are in the EU and Turkey is out.

You can have all the minority rights, like every other minority in every other EU country, more than what the Turks allow to their Kurdish minority in Turkey. What your minority has no right to do, is to steal our lands or determine what our island should and shouldn't do. All Cypriot citizens are equal and each one of you has the right to cast one vote like each one of us.

But you are the one claiming to be European and live its values not us, as I have said many times because it fits you guys down to a tee is, placing a saddle on a donkeys back doesnt make it a race horse. Piratis do you accept us as an equal community and do you support the current negotiaitons of BBf with political equality? you give me the impression you dont.

[Viewpoint]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave, obviously that wont work for you because you would first have to pull your head out of your arse and see that Turkey is here because our neighbours really can be violent bastards and Turkey is not here to stay.

Plus I know all about the EU spirit and I can tell you for sure that it does not exist in Cyprus, the only reason corrupt "ROC" ever made it in there was because the Greeks have been the historical suck ups of the European big boys, that's all.

Why else would a corrupt country which doesn't even fall into "Europe" be in the EU?

Turkey is an occupying force. If Turks were not the imperialistic aggressive scumbags that they are then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

Cyprus is a Greek island, and the Greek civilization is the basis of the European civilization.

The Turks on the other hand are Muslims from Mongolia, and they have nothing in common with the European civilization. (or any civilization for that matter)

You invited the Turkish Army here and they will not leave until a solution is found.

Cyprus has never been or will never be a Greek island.

Muslims from Mongolia?? what does that mean, does it mean they are any less human than you??? You show the clear signs of the discrimination we would face in a united Cyprus, hate the thought of my child being interviewed for a job by GCs with your mindset like Zeliş they would have failed for just being a TC.

Safeguards safeguards and more safeguards the only way we will ever agree unification.

[Piratis]

Of course we are European. If it wasn't for 3+ centuries of Ottoman oppression and the invasion of 1974, Cyprus today would be at same level as any other western European country. Just look at how much we have achieved in just a few decades of of semi-independence, even though we had to deal with the constant aggression of the Turks, 200.000 of refugees (1/3rd of our population) and the stealing of 1/3rd of our land and half of our natural resources.

What I support is democracy, and political equality among citizens. No matter what is discussed and what you say, in the end it is I and the majority of the Cypriot people who will decide what we want for our own island. Your blackmail will not pass.

[Piratis]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave, obviously that wont work for you because you would first have to pull your head out of your arse and see that Turkey is here because our neighbours really can be violent bastards and Turkey is not here to stay.

Plus I know all about the EU spirit and I can tell you for sure that it does not exist in Cyprus, the only reason corrupt "ROC" ever made it in there was because the Greeks have been the historical suck ups of the European big boys, that's all.

Why else would a corrupt country which doesn't even fall into "Europe" be in the EU?

Turkey is an occupying force. If Turks were not the imperialistic aggressive scumbags that they are then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

Cyprus is a Greek island, and the Greek civilization is the basis of the European civilization.

The Turks on the other hand are Muslims from Mongolia, and they have nothing in common with the European civilization. (or any civilization for that matter)

You invited the Turkish Army here and they will not leave until a solution is found.

Cyprus has never been or will never be a Greek island.

Muslims from Mongolia?? what does that mean, does it mean they are any less human than you??? You show the clear signs of the discrimination we would face in a united Cyprus, hate the thought of my child being interviewed for a job by GCs with your mindset like Zeliş they would have failed for just being a TC.

Safeguards safeguards and more safeguards the only way we will ever agree unification.

Cyprus is and will always be a Greek island. What I mean by Mongolian Muslims is simply that you do not fit here and in Europe in general. You came as foreign invaders and you never managed to assimilate with the native population.

And stop making jokes about you agreeing on unification. You will never agree on true unification. What you want is to steal our lands. We know this 1000% already. So stop saying jokes about you agreeing for unification. You will never agree.

[lovernomore]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave, obviously that wont work for you because you would first have to pull your head out of your arse and see that Turkey is here because our neighbours really can be violent bastards and Turkey is not here to stay.

Plus I know all about the EU spirit and I can tell you for sure that it does not exist in Cyprus, the only reason corrupt "ROC" ever made it in there was because the Greeks have been the historical suck ups of the European big boys, that's all.

Why else would a corrupt country which doesn't even fall into "Europe" be in the EU?

Turkey is an occupying force. If Turks were not the imperialistic aggressive scumbags that they are then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

Cyprus is a Greek island, and the Greek civilization is the basis of the European civilization.

The Turks on the other hand are Muslims from Mongolia, and they have nothing in common with the European civilization. (or any civilization for that matter)

You invited the Turkish Army here and they will not leave until a solution is found.

Cyprus has never been or will never be a Greek island.

Muslims from Mongolia?? what does that mean, does it mean they are any less human than you??? You show the clear signs of the discrimination we would face in a united Cyprus, hate the thought of my child being interviewed for a job by GCs with your mindset like Zeliş they would have failed for just being a TC.

Safeguards safeguards and more safeguards the only way we will ever agree unification.

Cyprus is and will always be a Greek island. What I mean by Mongolian Muslims is simply that you do not fit here and in Europe in general. You came as foreign invaders and you never managed to assimilate with the native population.

And stop making jokes about you agreeing on unification. You will never agree on true unification. What you want is to steal our lands. We know this 1000% already. So stop saying jokes about you agreeing for unification. You will never agree.

Since 1974 you have evry right to say south Cyprus is Greek. If you dont mind we will say TRNC is Turkish. Happy? Deal?