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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:37 am

shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ... :D


The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...


They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!


Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...


Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.


I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.


Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?

We have been asking for our freedom and self-determination from foreign rulers since 1821, and these foreign rulers (Turks/British) denied to the Cypriot people the right to peacefully and democratically decide the destiny of their own island.

Here is what you did in 1821:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


and here is what you did in 1958:



If instead of attacking us you accepted that the Cypriot people had the right to peacefully and democratically decide the destiny of their own island then nobody on either side would be harmed.

So how can you accuse us, when it is you who started all the conflicts and wars in Cyprus. When you attack us, don't you recognize to us the right to defend ourselves and fight back?
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:48 am

The same is true today. What we are asking for is again for the Cypriot people to be freed from foreign invaders, and to be allowed to rule their own island in a democratic, one person one vote way, without racist discrimination and segregation.

And as always, Turkey denies this right to the Cypriot people by using its small Turkish minority on the island as the excuse. Turkey illegally keeps 100s of thousands of innocent people out of their own homes at gun point, and as we have seen in the cases of Isaak and Solomou they are more than willing to shoot and kill any Cypriot that dares to demonstrate against their crimes.

So when we will be able to fight back against the Turkish invaders and protect the sovereignty of our own country that would be called "barbarism" according to shahmaran? :roll: No my friend, Barbarism is what you do, not the native Cypriot people fighting for their freedom and their rights against foreign invaders.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:56 am

Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ... :D


The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...


They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!


Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...


Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.


I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.


Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?



Since when murdering the innocent natives of this country and dumping them into mass graves, starving your fellow Cypriots, stopping your fellow Cypriots from owning decent businesses, sabotaging their existence into persuading them to leave their own country called defence Piratis, you are an absolute idiot who can do nothing but push the same bullshit fantasy story at every opportunity, not even your fellow GC's buy it (apart from that Nazi) lady. You were on a racist mission and you fucked it up, get over it.

Change the tune Piratis :lol:
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:09 am

shah, when you feel cornered try not to act disturbed because you sound like an asshole. You have to realize at this point that your game is figured out by now. Try a different approach to rebutt.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:19 am

shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ... :D


The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...


They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!


Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...


Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.


I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.


Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?



Since when murdering the innocent natives of this country and dumping them into mass graves, starving your fellow Cypriots, stopping your fellow Cypriots from owning decent businesses, sabotaging their existence into persuading them to leave their own country called defence Piratis, you are an absolute idiot who can do nothing but push the same bullshit fantasy story at every opportunity, not even your fellow GC's buy it (apart from that Nazi) lady. You were on a racist mission and you fucked it up, get over it.

Change the tune Piratis :lol:


Well said, Piratis will never realize that he like us will pay for his sins by compromising, the 1960 agreements whcih he detests were a result of his own actions and tailored to suit the times. The AP was yet another attempt at bringing resolve to an a sensative problem. Piratis does not understand that the world does not view them worthy of running the country fair and just thats why safeguards have to be diliberated in order to make sure they act in accordance with the EU spirit of sharing and treating everyone as equals becuase without those safeguards the world knows we TCs will be placing our heads on a chopping block waiting for the "majority" to use their right to excute us all in the "legal" name of democracy.
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:44 pm

You must realise by now that debating with GR, Piratis, Bafidis and Oracle is a total waste of time. You have more chance of milking milk out of bulls balls than sense out of that quartet of Hellenic dinosaurs.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:24 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ... :D


The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...


They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!


Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...


Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.


I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.


Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?



Since when murdering the innocent natives of this country and dumping them into mass graves, starving your fellow Cypriots, stopping your fellow Cypriots from owning decent businesses, sabotaging their existence into persuading them to leave their own country called defence Piratis, you are an absolute idiot who can do nothing but push the same bullshit fantasy story at every opportunity, not even your fellow GC's buy it (apart from that Nazi) lady. You were on a racist mission and you fucked it up, get over it.

Change the tune Piratis :lol:


I like it how you quote one sentence and then ignore the evidence which prove that it is you who attacked innocent people and started the inter-communal conflict. In the wars and conflicts you started against Cypriots you killed 1000s and 10s of thousands of innocent people, and yet you come here to present yourselves as the victims because in the wars and conflicts you started you also had some casualties, far less than ours. :roll: How did you imagine it? That you would attack us, start killing and oppressing us, denying to us our right for freedom, and we would just sit there and be slaughtered by you without fighting back?

Racists are those who denied and continue to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination by using brute force.

The Cypriot people fought back and the will continue to fight back against the foreign invaders, until our island is free and we are allowed to rule our own island in a democratic way.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:32 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Piratis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
That is your Canadian seal-clubbing mentality clouding the prospects!

I back Piraris because he is a stalwart Human rights advocate ... :D


The trouble with that statement, Oracle, is that you don't regard Turks as human...


They don't behave how I expect Humans to behave, that is true! But I accept they are not as nice as lower animals, so Human they must be! Who else can be so cruel? ... but a barbarian Human! Yup, unfortunately, Human they are; and they cannot claim extra Rights for being anything else but lowly Humans!


Well you have very well proven that you can be no different when the time is right, so no need to take any of those comments seriously...


Really? So when have the ostracised 200,000 GCs forced to flee from their homes at gunpoint behaved like Barbarians?

By appealing to Courts for justice?

Honestly shah, you have a perverted sense of ethical morality.


I was actually referring to the level of barbarism within the crimes you managed to commit in what little time and power you had at hand back in the day.

It was just a good example of what you were capable of IF you were given the chance and it was no less lower than the portrait you choose fit for us.


Since when it is "barbarism" to defend yourself when you are invaded and attacked by foreigners?



Since when murdering the innocent natives of this country and dumping them into mass graves, starving your fellow Cypriots, stopping your fellow Cypriots from owning decent businesses, sabotaging their existence into persuading them to leave their own country called defence Piratis, you are an absolute idiot who can do nothing but push the same bullshit fantasy story at every opportunity, not even your fellow GC's buy it (apart from that Nazi) lady. You were on a racist mission and you fucked it up, get over it.

Change the tune Piratis :lol:


Well said, Piratis will never realize that he like us will pay for his sins by compromising, the 1960 agreements whcih he detests were a result of his own actions and tailored to suit the times. The AP was yet another attempt at bringing resolve to an a sensative problem. Piratis does not understand that the world does not view them worthy of running the country fair and just thats why safeguards have to be diliberated in order to make sure they act in accordance with the EU spirit of sharing and treating everyone as equals becuase without those safeguards the world knows we TCs will be placing our heads on a chopping block waiting for the "majority" to use their right to excute us all in the "legal" name of democracy.


You know nothing about EU spirit. This is why Cyprus and Greece are in the EU and Turkey is out.

You can have all the minority rights, like every other minority in every other EU country, more than what the Turks allow to their Kurdish minority in Turkey. What your minority has no right to do, is to steal our lands or determine what our island should and shouldn't do. All Cypriot citizens are equal and each one of you has the right to cast one vote like each one of us.
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Postby runaway » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:44 pm

Piratis wrote:
You can have all the minority rights, like every other minority in every other EU country, .


wrong. Turks in Greece are deprived of their minority rights. It is a crime to declare that they are Turks in that EU country. What a shame.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:52 pm

YFred wrote:You must realise by now that debating with GR, Piratis, Bafidis and Oracle is a total waste of time. You have more chance of milking milk out of bulls balls than sense out of that quartet of Hellenic dinosaurs.

Exchanging messages with Y-Fronts is less interesting than watching the grass grow… don’t you ever wonder why nobody takes you seriously? :lol:
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