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[paliometoxo]

if turkey made eu then people would be happy in turkey and stop smuggling illigals into south cy for money...

fought to stay alive? when it was the turks came to cyprus causing the problems killing thousands of gcs.. right...

turkey invades then complains that a few of them where killed.

yes maybe to you its an excuse but why is turkey even trying to blackmale eu to join saying forget cyprus we are a great nation?lol sure shows they dont care about joining and the oil pipelines using this to get eu to accept turkey..

[runaway]

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with Sarkozy's comment ... about Turkey being in Asia Minor. :

Where do you think South Cyprus belongs being 70 km SOUTH of Turkey?

Cyprus is not in Asia Minor.

Russia and Ukraine are some Kilometers north of Turkey. Greece and Bulgaria are 0 Kilometers west of Turkey. So what?

The borders of Europe are not defined by straight lines.

If Anatolia is Asia, so is South Cyprus. As simple as that.

Come now Runaway, you know very well that there is Geography and Hellenic Geography, now I see that there is Biology and Hellenic Biology.
I have leaned so much since joining this forum. I was going to say thank god, but no I will thank Tim Burners-Lee for it.

very typical GC behaviour on this forum. when they realize they are talking non-sense which they don't even believe themselves, they simply ignore the discussion topic and start attacking Turks with irrelevant things. So getting back to our geography lesson, Turkey has land both in Europe and Asia and South Cypriot Greek Administration only in Asia and yet they are in EUROPEAN Union. EU is such a credible organization!

[Viewpoint]

Of course we are European. If it wasn't for 3+ centuries of Ottoman oppression and the invasion of 1974, Cyprus today would be at same level as any other western European country. Just look at how much we have achieved in just a few decades of of semi-independence, even though we had to deal with the constant aggression of the Turks, 200.000 of refugees (1/3rd of our population) and the stealing of 1/3rd of our land and half of our natural resources.

What I support is democracy, and political equality among citizens. No matter what is discussed and what you say, in the end it is I and the majority of the Cypriot people who will decide what we want for our own island. Your blackmail will not pass.

We are not questioning you milking recognition for all its worth a baboon could do the same given the circumstances.

What we are discussing is that you have no right to put a large portion of your population safety in danger hoping for the best as it is not your head on the chopping block you would probably be the one in the front of the GC crowding clapping as the TCs head roll of the block.

Do you understand that your leader is now negotiating BBF with politcal equality??

The ones who chop of heads are the Turks, and they do so in order to deny to Cypriots their freedom:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

Rhodes, which also has a Turkish minority, united with Greece in 1947 and nobody was harmed. The Turkish minority there didn't attack the majority in order to deny to them their right for self-determination, as you did in 1958, and therefore there was no conflict and no casualties.

So stop making baseless imaginary scenarios about what supposedly would have happened to you if Cyprus united with Greece, in order to excuse the actual fact of your attacks against us.

If you had respected the right of Cypriots for self-determination instead of trying to impose your will by force as your Ottoman ancestors did, then we would have all decided in a peaceful and democratic way the destiny of our island, and there would be no conflict, no wars and no suffering for anybody.

What happened to the Turks in Crete?? the risk was to high to take and as it did not effect your lives or future all we could do was fight back, do you not think the Turks in Rhodes and Crete would not have done the same şf the had the means?

[shahmaran]

if turkey made eu then people would be happy in turkey and stop smuggling illigals into south cy for money...

fought to stay alive? when it was the turks came to cyprus causing the problems killing thousands of gcs.. right...

turkey invades then complains that a few of them where killed.

yes maybe to you its an excuse but why is turkey even trying to blackmale eu to join saying forget cyprus we are a great nation?lol sure shows they dont care about joining and the oil pipelines using this to get eu to accept turkey..

What makes you think Turkish people are not happy?

They are as happy as any other country considering the fact that unemployment wise they are just behind Spain and not far from Greece.

If Turkey did get into the EU they wouldn't have to smuggle anyone anymore because they will be able to legally walk right in.

The only reason we have less casualties than you is because we were backed up by Turkey and not the looser poofs Greece, that's why

Never the less, your intentions towards your fellow Cypriots was no less violent than of the Turks towards you.

[Viewpoint]

Turkey did say that if ever a lasting solution is found which guarantees our safety she will leave, obviously that wont work for you because you would first have to pull your head out of your arse and see that Turkey is here because our neighbours really can be violent bastards and Turkey is not here to stay.

Plus I know all about the EU spirit and I can tell you for sure that it does not exist in Cyprus, the only reason corrupt "ROC" ever made it in there was because the Greeks have been the historical suck ups of the European big boys, that's all.

Why else would a corrupt country which doesn't even fall into "Europe" be in the EU?

Turkey is an occupying force. If Turks were not the imperialistic aggressive scumbags that they are then there wouldn't be any Turks in Cyprus to begin with.

Cyprus is a Greek island, and the Greek civilization is the basis of the European civilization.

The Turks on the other hand are Muslims from Mongolia, and they have nothing in common with the European civilization. (or any civilization for that matter)

You invited the Turkish Army here and they will not leave until a solution is found.

Cyprus has never been or will never be a Greek island.

Muslims from Mongolia?? what does that mean, does it mean they are any less human than you??? You show the clear signs of the discrimination we would face in a united Cyprus, hate the thought of my child being interviewed for a job by GCs with your mindset like Zeliş they would have failed for just being a TC.

Safeguards safeguards and more safeguards the only way we will ever agree unification.

Cyprus is and will always be a Greek island. What I mean by Mongolian Muslims is simply that you do not fit here and in Europe in general. You came as foreign invaders and you never managed to assimilate with the native population.

And stop making jokes about you agreeing on unification. You will never agree on true unification. What you want is to steal our lands. We know this 1000% already. So stop saying jokes about you agreeing for unification. You will never agree.

We cannot steal what is already ours, Cyprus belongs to us just as much as it belongs to you. Individual land ownershiop is another matter this issue will be addressed separately where can can either return to live in a TC state or financial compensation.

The island is not Greek never will be so get used to it, its Cypriot. Are we not Cypriots? its this mindset that will ensure many more years of division keep up the good work as you dont have a chnace in hell of getting any TCs to agree with to make a difference.

Not only you stole the land of 100s of thousands of innocent people, since the last you currently illegally occupy belongs to GCs by 82%, but also the 100% of Cyprus belongs to Republic of Cyprus, the sovereignty of which you are violating.

You can have have your share of this island only through Republic of Cyprus, and you have absolutely no right to illegally occupy land of Republic of Cyprus and declare on it some Turkish state.

We have every right to live on Cyprus through your own constitution, the fact that you tried to renegg yet again on an agreement that bears your signature brought about the division you complain of today. As you can see the world backs BBF solution with political equality which is closer to my way of thinking than yours. We have every right to Cyprus, the individual land losses will and should be addressed under a comprehensive solution, they are 2 different issues, you merge the 2 because supports you aim to turn all of Cyprus into a Greek island.

[Viewpoint]

Miltiades, as you know Karoyian is of Armenian descent and he is the president of the 3rd largest party in Cyprus and President of the House of Representatives. He was elected in the parliament by receiving votes multiple times the size of the whole Armenian community.

So we don't need to take any lessons from the UK.

Unfortunately in Cyprus people were divided based on their religion since Ottoman times, and this anachronism was forced in Cyprus with the 1960 agreements as well.

In elections I don't vote people based on their ethnicity, but based on their position on various issues, and on how capable I believe they are. I am sure there are many TCs that can meet these criteria, if they are allowed to care for Cyprus as a whole instead of only the interests of their community and the interests of Turkey.

Flash in plan, 1 in how many years???

[Oracle]

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with Sarkozy's comment ... about Turkey being in Asia Minor. :

Where do you think South Cyprus belongs being 70 km SOUTH of Turkey?

Cyprus is not in Asia Minor.

Russia and Ukraine are some Kilometers north of Turkey. Greece and Bulgaria are 0 Kilometers west of Turkey. So what?

The borders of Europe are not defined by straight lines.

If Anatolia is Asia, so is South Cyprus. As simple as that.

Come now Runaway, you know very well that there is Geography and Hellenic Geography, now I see that there is Biology and Hellenic Biology.
I have leaned so much since joining this forum. I was going to say thank god, but no I will thank Tim Burners-Lee for it.

very typical GC behaviour on this forum. when they realize they are talking non-sense which they don't even believe themselves, they simply ignore the discussion topic and start attacking Turks with irrelevant things. So getting back to our geography lesson, Turkey has land both in Europe and Asia and South Cypriot Greek Administration only in Asia and yet they are in EUROPEAN Union. EU is such a credible organization!

Perhaps the Turks should turn their sights on stealing land in Africa now .... (since you are not happy with the EU).

[shahmaran]

Been there done that

[Oracle]

Been there done that

Not like Turks to let go .... anyone kick you out? Maybe there's a lesson to be learnt there.

[YFred]

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with Sarkozy's comment ... about Turkey being in Asia Minor. :

Where do you think South Cyprus belongs being 70 km SOUTH of Turkey?

Cyprus is not in Asia Minor.

Russia and Ukraine are some Kilometers north of Turkey. Greece and Bulgaria are 0 Kilometers west of Turkey. So what?

The borders of Europe are not defined by straight lines.

If Anatolia is Asia, so is South Cyprus. As simple as that.

Come now Runaway, you know very well that there is Geography and Hellenic Geography, now I see that there is Biology and Hellenic Biology.
I have leaned so much since joining this forum. I was going to say thank god, but no I will thank Tim Burners-Lee for it.

very typical GC behaviour on this forum. when they realize they are talking non-sense which they don't even believe themselves, they simply ignore the discussion topic and start attacking Turks with irrelevant things. So getting back to our geography lesson, Turkey has land both in Europe and Asia and South Cypriot Greek Administration only in Asia and yet they are in EUROPEAN Union. EU is such a credible organization!

Runaway, I must disagree with you there, EU is a very credible christian non democratic gutless organisation.
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