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[insan]

Without Turkey entry to EU ..... it is very clear there will be no solution in Cyprus and there will be no entry for ''ROC'' to NATO as well.

Why would Cyprus want to join stupid NATO???

True, there's no need for Cyprus to join Nato since her "mom" with the same national interests already is in Nato.

[Get Real!]

Without Turkey entry to EU ..... it is very clear there will be no solution in Cyprus and there will be no entry for ''ROC'' to NATO as well.

Why would Cyprus want to join stupid NATO???

True, there's no need for Cyprus to join Nato since her "mom" with the same national interests already is in Nato.

When the murderous NATO finish destroying Afghanistan and Pakistan, the next likely candidate will be Syria… and one after the other they’ll run out of Muslims to kill… you do realize that you too are Muslims eh? Turkey is doing a great job assisting them and I can only imagine the shock on her face when they one day turn against her too, although we may not even get that far as Pakistan has a nuclear warhead or two…

[-mikkie2-]

Unfortunately, we, the GC's will need to compromise on certain aspects of the solution.

The TC's will inevitably have to compromise on land and property. They simply cannot justify taking people land because firstly, the TC's own much less land than GC's in 1974, secondly, this makes exchanging property unviable and thirdly fairly compensating those peole that are left will be prohibitively expensive, particularly in the current climate. It therefore stands to reason that the TC's must yield on this.

The other aspect is bizonality. Because of the EU aquis and the above facts of property ownership, bizonality will have to be diluted significantly. Therefore, the idea of a bizonal, bicommunal federation cannot work in the medium to long term.

There is also the security aspect which Turkey will also have to relent on. They will have to accept that the guarantees will have to go out of the window and be replaced by some other security arrangement, probably with Cyprus becoming a NATO member, despite Christofias opposition to this.

We then come to the governance aspects. And unfortunately, it is here where we the GC's will need to compromise. And this will probably mean that the TC share of power will need to be closer to 50:50 as opposed to 70:30 or 80:20. This may be unpalatable to many but it is perhaps the lesser of two evils.

The above is just my humble opinion.

[insan]

Without Turkey entry to EU ..... it is very clear there will be no solution in Cyprus and there will be no entry for ''ROC'' to NATO as well.

Why would Cyprus want to join stupid NATO???

True, there's no need for Cyprus to join Nato since her "mom" with the same national interests already is in Nato.

When the murderous NATO finish destroying Afghanistan and Pakistan, the next likely candidate will be Syria… and one after the other they’ll run out of Muslims to kill… you do realize that you too are Muslims eh? Turkey is doing a great job assisting them and I can only imagine the shock on her face when they one day turn against her too, although we may not even get that far as Pakistan has a nuclear warhead or two…

Population exchange between western countries and eastern countries. Making it upside-down is another good strategy to globalize the world in shape of brotherhood. Westernized easterns together with Easternized Westerns. One needs to be well evolved to comprehend and analyze what actually is going on.

Muslim population 'rising 10 times faster than rest of society'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 621482.ece

Muslim Population Statistics
Demographic considerations with regard to Muslim populations may prove to be of vital concern in the next millennium. When a large percentage of the population is older, this can affect the socio-political structure of a country. Likewise, when a large percentage of the population is young, that too will affect the socio-political structure of a country.
Here are some population statistics starting from the early 1900s as well as projected figures for the year 2025 of the total overall number of Muslims across the globe.

Comparative chart - number of Muslims to Christians:

http://muslim-canada.org/muslimstats.html

The Banner - Muslim Population in Canada to Dramatically Increase - [ Bu sayfanın çevirisini yap ]By the time Canada reaches its 150th birthday in 2017, it will see its Muslim population increase by 160 percent and the number of Hindus rise by 90 percent ...
www.thebanner.org/news/article.cfm?news_id=49

Muslim Population Growth in Europe and First World - [ Bu sayfanın çevirisini yap ]The Muslim population did increase rapidly in many First World countries between 1970 and 1990, but grew much more slowly between 1990 and 2000. ...
www.geocities.com/richleebruce/b/1st-world-islam.html

American Paradox Increasing Population - [ Bu sayfanın çevirisini yap ]Dosya Biçimi: Microsoft Word - HTML olarak görüntüle
The rate of population growth within the American Muslim community is so high ... which indicates a significant increase in comparison to the year before. ...
www.e-resaneh.com/ArticleFiles/American ... lation.doc


Poor GR! when will u evolve a bit more and begin comprehend and truly analyze what's really going on?

[Nikitas]

What I understand from the above is that after all these years and all the trouble and hard times we will eventually get back to the 1960 agreement with some EU rules thrown in the cocktail. We Cypriots are clever people, you gotta admit!

[boulio]

Do you think with Cypus in the EU that the 1960 agreements would have worked,if people voted and looked at things for their betterment and not along ethnic lines.

I mean if germany and france can get along cant the two communities bury the hatchet and do the same.

[shahmaran]

Only IF we get rid of Piratis

[Nikitas]

"Do you think with Cypus in the EU that the 1960 agreements would have worked"

When I think back and see that deep poverty of the 50s, i would say yes, if we had the EU and the prospects it opens up for all citizens the 1960 agreements in combination with the EU legal order would have worked. In the end that is where we are heading anyway. This bizonal thing will be bizonal in name only, you cannot force people to live in one or the other area. The TCs will be the first to move where the business will be and that will be south.

[YFred]

You are totally wrong. Most people will work in the south, but will prefer to live in the North. Simple economics.
Isn't that what was said about the Berlin wall. How many east Germans moved to the west?

[Get Real!]

What I understand from the above is that after all these years and all the trouble and hard times we will eventually get back to the 1960 agreement with some EU rules thrown in the cocktail. We Cypriots are clever people, you gotta admit!

The EU have become experts at getting their knickers in a knot… how exactly does an undemocratic political arrangement adhere to the EU aquis???