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Legal problems with N. Cyprus property

Postby RAFAELLA » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:37 am

Legal problems with Northern Cyprus property

Following a ruling by the European court, British owners face huge damages

Kasia Maciejowska

Britons who bought holiday homes in Northern Cyprus may be forced to pay thousands of pounds in damages to the original Greek Cypriot owners of the land, following a ruling by the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. The judgment, expected later this year, will conclude a case that began in 2005, when a Cypriot court ordered a British couple, Linda and David Orams, to demolish their villa to pay compensation to Meledis Apostolides — the Greek Cypriot legal owner of the land. Like many other Britons, the Orams bought the land from Turkish Cypriots who took ownership illegally following the Turkish invasion of 1974, when an estimated 170,000 Greek Cypriots fled their homes. The case was referred to the EU court after the Orams opposed the ruling. The Advocate General, whose opinion is usually followed, has backed the Greek Cypriots. If this opinion is upheld, damages to the dispossessed population could be enforced against any assets owned elsewhere in the EU by non-Greek property owners.


http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l ... 767404.ece

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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:49 pm

Finally some justice for the Greek Cypriots.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:52 pm

You may be counting your chickens....
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:55 pm

Why is that then?
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:00 pm

Why is that then?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:33 am

"The Advocate General, whose opinion is usually followed, has backed the Greek Cypriots. If this opinion is upheld,.."

I believe the operative words here are "usually" and "If". These two words imply a degree of uncertainty, hence counting your chickens.

You may be convinced that this is justice for Greek Cypriots, but it isn't over till the fat lady sings.
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:36 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:"The Advocate General, whose opinion is usually followed, has backed the Greek Cypriots. If this opinion is upheld,.."

I believe the operative words here are "usually" and "If". These two words imply a degree of uncertainty, hence chickens and eggs.

You may be convinced that this is justice for Greek Cypriots, but it isn't over till the fat lady sings.


Why would he need to be convinced that this is justice for Greek Cypriots? This is justice full stop. Do you personally have a legal justification that allows you to acomodate theft of property and re-selling as a viable transaction?
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Postby Jerry » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:07 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:You may be counting your chickens....


Thieving bastard! you "buy" OUR property and hide behind the Turkish army. I hope you lose everything and have to live in a cave for the rest of your life. Most of the Brits in the north are low life lager swilling opportunist scum, they must be as thick as two short planks - why do you think pre '74 Turkish property is selling for twice the price of stolen land. Here's what one of your mates has to say about the state of the "trnc" economy.

Does the cold wet weather go hand in hand with the doom and gloom in the newspapers? I have been of course reading all about the UK and it's financial situation on the internet papers and have to say that it makes pretty depressing reading. But it's no better here as many are suffering too. Some local authorities have been unable to pay some employees as they have been unable to collect tax due from failing businesses, whilst at the same time State sector workers are planning to strike because the government is planning to regulate wages and not to increase the minimum wage. What is the point of that I ask, if there is no money why ask for an increase on nothing.

The problem here is that it has been a handout nation for a very long time. Turkish Cypriots have become used to Turkey guaranteeing them money and State jobs, regardless in many cases of ability or even a desire to work. Result here is one working and three watching, but four getting paid. The rude awakening must be just around the corner.

There is a report in the paper today that the government is to hold an auction of electrical goods etc that have been seized over the years because they would not pass state rules. Now if they are potentially lethal according to the responsible department, how can it now be suddenly OK to sell them off. Shows a certain desperate need for money.

President Talat says that he is still optimistic about finding a solution to the divided island during 2009, but admits that there is much work to be done. At the same time he admits to an over recruitment problem and says that we must find other fields for new employees instead of the public sector. A cabinet member says that the public sector is on the point of collapse and that the government will soon not be able to meet the wage bill every month. Yet those who are supposed to understand call for strikes to claim higher wages and government money to prop up failing businesses, whilst they continue to blindly open up new shops etc, strange sort of uneducated mentality.


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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:16 pm

"Thieving bastard! you "buy" OUR property.."
Temper, temper...How do you know what I bought?
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Postby Jerry » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:32 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:"Thieving bastard! you "buy" OUR property.."
Temper, temper...How do you know what I bought?


For a start you cannot legally buy any property in the "trnc" unless you use the legal system of the internationally recognised ROC. I have seen your posts on another site, if you are not a thieving bastard then I apologise but you must be a stupid bastard to buy a property in a "country" that has no legal status.
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