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The End of the Cyprus Problem

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby growuptcs » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:34 pm

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Maybe you shoudl start to try and understand that what I am saying is the truth, hasnt the world seen and understood what really happened in Cyprus and the role the GCs played, plus the reality of being divided is that a fact?? What have I stated that is not right?


Erdogan was morally right also on how he reacted at Davos. Do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:38 pm

growuptcs wrote:
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Maybe you shoudl start to try and understand that what I am saying is the truth, hasnt the world seen and understood what really happened in Cyprus and the role the GCs played, plus the reality of being divided is that a fact?? What have I stated that is not right?


Erdogan was morally right also on how he reacted at Davos. Do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?


The act was a result of what the world wanted but did not have the balls to say. Someone had to make a stand as we did in the past which brough about a peaceful exsistence for everyone.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:41 pm

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growuptcs wrote:
VP:
Maybe you shoudl start to try and understand that what I am saying is the truth, hasnt the world seen and understood what really happened in Cyprus and the role the GCs played, plus the reality of being divided is that a fact?? What have I stated that is not right?


Erdogan was morally right also on how he reacted at Davos. Do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?


The act was a result of what the world wanted but did not have the balls to say. Someone had to make a stand as we did in the past which brough about a peaceful exsistence for everyone.


You didn't answer my question VP. This is where you have to learn to work with people to move on. So, I'll ask you again, do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:45 pm

growuptcs wrote:
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growuptcs wrote:
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Maybe you shoudl start to try and understand that what I am saying is the truth, hasnt the world seen and understood what really happened in Cyprus and the role the GCs played, plus the reality of being divided is that a fact?? What have I stated that is not right?


Erdogan was morally right also on how he reacted at Davos. Do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?


The act was a result of what the world wanted but did not have the balls to say. Someone had to make a stand as we did in the past which brough about a peaceful exsistence for everyone.


You didn't answer my question VP. This is where you have to learn to work with people to move on. So, I'll ask you again, do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?


Can you be more specific are we talking about Cyprus or Palastine as they are 2 different issues at very different junctures.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:53 pm

I'm not trying to throw you off VP. I'm just asking in terms of Palestine/Israel not Cyprus if what Erdogan did was a final answer or more diplomacy is needed for peace between societies.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:54 pm

growuptcs wrote:I'm not trying to throw you off VP. I'm just asking in terms of Palestine/Israel not Cyprus if what Erdogan did was a final answer or more diplomacy is needed for peace between societies.


Intervention is necessary.
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Postby YFred » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:55 pm

You will find that the biggest obstacle to peace on earth today is the UN. It has been abused by the 5 Permanente Security members to serve their national interests.

There is nothing anybody can do about it. You have to find a way of getting on within those parameters, no matter which society you are talking about.
Getting back to Cyprus problem, whatever the agreement they come up with it has to guaranty the TC physical security.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:04 pm

YFred wrote:You will find that the biggest obstacle to peace on earth today is the UN. It has been abused by the 5 Permanente Security members to serve their national interests.

There is nothing anybody can do about it. You have to find a way of getting on within those parameters, no matter which society you are talking about.
Getting back to Cyprus problem, whatever the agreement they come up with it has to guaranty the TC physical security.


Like what kind of guarantee are you looking for, can you give an example? I'll help you out, are you looking for guarantees like TC's are only allowed to bear arms in the north and the GC's have no rights to bear arms? I can't see what your asking for thats different to any other minority in their country abroad. Give an example so I can understand.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:09 pm

growuptcs wrote:
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Maybe you shoudl start to try and understand that what I am saying is the truth, hasnt the world seen and understood what really happened in Cyprus and the role the GCs played, plus the reality of being divided is that a fact?? What have I stated that is not right?


Erdogan was morally right also on how he reacted at Davos. Do you think the issue should just stop there, or do you think more diplomacy is needed to bring peace between societies?


Erdogan is too stupid to have thought ahead to the consequences of his outburst ... that is all.

He is not a diplomat, politically astute and even worse ... he is not bright enough to work out logical outcomes.

He is a "lucky" loose cannon amidst some desperate Islamists that want to be heard ... for all the wrong reasons.

Politics of the past ... bury him!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:10 pm

The guarantees are to make sure you and we behave and will not only act as a deterrant but also act as a last resort. What are you afraid of that you will not behave or do you have hidden agendas yet again?
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