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[runaway]

We have other minorities in Cyprus, and we live peacefully with them. They respect us and we respect them. When those other Cypriots were made to choose a "community", they choose to belong to the GC community. Guess why you racist Turk.

Not hard to guess clever boy. They are Christians like you and your church wanted to get rid of the Muslims!

So it is not about race, it is about religion now already?

Guess who were the first to divide the population into Christians and Muslims. I will give you a tip: The Christians had to pay double the taxes, testimony of Christians was not accepted in courts, and in general the Christians were treated as second category people.

Christians were not killed. They were free to exercise their religion. I wish Makarios was as open-minded as well. But wait what do you expect from a church man ruling a country???

Yes, Christians were allowed to exercise their religion but also:
Christians were indeed killed, by the 10s of thousands.
Christians paid double the taxes.
Christian testimony was not even accepted in courts.

You call this "open minded"? If you like this system how about we apply on you the system you applied on us? You will be free to practice your religion, you will pay double the taxes, and your testimony will not be accepted in courts. Whenever you try to complain we will kill you. So, how do you like this "open minded" Ottoman System now?

TCs were killed because they refused ENOSIS, your bitter disgusting dream.

[-mikkie2-]

There are reports that the EU Commission will directly link the Cyprus talks with Turkish accession to the EU. The Commission is also making it clear that now the Cyprus is an EU member state, then the new state of affairs in Cyprus must adhere to the EU aquis without any exceptions.

The reasons are two-fold. Firstly, the EU wants to avoid stopping talks at the end of the year if Turkey does not implement the Ankara protocol regarding Cypurs. By linking the talks with accession it allows the Commission to delay cutting off talks.

Secondly, Turkey is dragging its feet regarding implementation of laws that align it with the EU. I think the EU is getting fed up with Turkeys attitude to EU accession proceess and is basically going to give it a big kick up the back side to show that the EU is serious. Linking the talks to accession means that Turkey must start to be more flexible in the negotiations in solving the Cyprus problem and to also get Turkey to move regarding the implementation of the EU laws in Turkey.

So finally, I think, we may be seeing light at the end of the tunnel. The EU needs to see actions rather than words.

What will this mean? Well it will probably mean that land/property situation will be solved, probably in favour of the GC's and we will get a true federal government as opposed to the confederal structure of the Annan plan. The price for this will be that the TC's will get more power in the federal government in order to offset the weakening of the bizonality that would be inevitable. In fact it has to be weakend - you cannot put restrictions on where people can live and work in Cyprus under the EU.

Watch this space.....

[Oracle]

We knew trying to solve the Cyprus Problem via negotiations and following the slow wheels of Justice, would not produce instant results. But instant results are the bloodbaths of Turkish infamy. Our exemplary civilised path, contrasts sharply with the Turkish depths of depravity, where we should avoid being dragged into, again.

There are many signs that we are nearing the end of that justice-seeking process; but we must not take our eye off the ball at this stage, and settle for anything less, than true democracy, and restoration of all the Human Rights of the Gcs, whose homes and chattels were forcefully taken by the criminal Turks and all their accomplices, who have been living in oblivious luxury at others' expense.

There should be no reserved seats of power for Turk-TC criminals in our fully restored free democratic government. They have to prove themselves in a meritocracy, and not just be offered more gifts, to appease their free-loading expectations.

[Piratis]

We have other minorities in Cyprus, and we live peacefully with them. They respect us and we respect them. When those other Cypriots were made to choose a "community", they choose to belong to the GC community. Guess why you racist Turk.

Not hard to guess clever boy. They are Christians like you and your church wanted to get rid of the Muslims!

So it is not about race, it is about religion now already?

Guess who were the first to divide the population into Christians and Muslims. I will give you a tip: The Christians had to pay double the taxes, testimony of Christians was not accepted in courts, and in general the Christians were treated as second category people.

Christians were not killed. They were free to exercise their religion. I wish Makarios was as open-minded as well. But wait what do you expect from a church man ruling a country???

Yes, Christians were allowed to exercise their religion but also:
Christians were indeed killed, by the 10s of thousands.
Christians paid double the taxes.
Christian testimony was not even accepted in courts.

You call this "open minded"? If you like this system how about we apply on you the system you applied on us? You will be free to practice your religion, you will pay double the taxes, and your testimony will not be accepted in courts. Whenever you try to complain we will kill you. So, how do you like this "open minded" Ottoman System now?

TCs were killed because they refused ENOSIS, your bitter disgusting dream.

Enosis means Cyprus to be part of the Greek Republic, which is what the vast majority of native Cypriots wanted, instead of being part of some foreign empire imposed on Cypriots by force. So what is "disgusting" about it? Absolutely nothing. S

On the contrary, what is disgusting are the Turkish attacks against us, in order to prevent Cypriots to democratically decide the destiny of their own island.

Disgusting Attacks of Turks to prevent the self-determination and freedom of the Cypriot people:

in 1821:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

in 1958:



You attacked us in order to prevent Cyprus from being free and in the wars and conflicts you started you also had some losses, way less than the losses you caused to us.

We have the right to unite our island with whomever we want. I remember when Cyprus was about to unite with EU, the Turks were again threatening us with another war. Fortunately this time they couldn't use their Turkish minority in order to create trouble and an excuse to invade.

I suspect that the main reason that Dektash opened the gates in 2003, a year before our union with EU, was that he was hopping that in some way the conflict would restart and give an excuse to Turkey to invade again and stop Cyprus from uniting with EU, but unfortunately for him and Turkey this didn't happen.

[Oracle]

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[shahmaran]

ENOSIS only meant freedom for the Greek, who as a matter of fact, never EVER where the sole owners of this island, it was our right to defend ourselves from you civilized murderers who decided to claim the island and make it Greek by killing us in our own homes.

If you had the power we did you wouldn't have thought twice about exterminating every single Turk on the island, civilised and exemplary my arse

You talk as if you have any power over the matter Oracle, you clearly don't, you have lost that power long time ago.

We managed to free ourselves from the claws of our racist and violent neighbours and the rest will eventually come, with you our without you, hopefully without.

[DT.]

ENOSIS only meant freedom for the Greek, who as a matter of fact, never EVER where the sole owners of this island, it was our right to defend ourselves from you civilized murderers who decided to claim the island and make it Greek by killing us in our own homes.

If you had the power we did you wouldn't have thought twice about exterminating every single Turk on the island, civilised and exemplary my arse

You talk as if you have any power over the matter Oracle, you clearly don't, you have lost that power long time ago.

We managed to free ourselves from the claws of our racist and violent neighbours and the rest will eventually come, with you our without you, hopefully without.

Big words from a man that supports the TMT and the Turkish mehmetchik's. Both groups being gentle and liberal tree huggers. Getting shot or raped by one of them was a treat.

[utu]

Now it's back to finger-pointing and accusations. Shot of military force, it's just going to be the status quo for years and years to come. I hope you're all satisfied.

[Get Real!]

TCs were killed because they refused ENOSIS, your bitter disgusting dream.

What's so disgusting about wearing pompoms on your shoes?

[Piratis]

ENOSIS only meant freedom for the Greek, who as a matter of fact, never EVER where the sole owners of this island, it was our right to defend ourselves from you civilized murderers who decided to claim the island and make it Greek by killing us in our own homes.

If you had the power we did you wouldn't have thought twice about exterminating every single Turk on the island, civilised and exemplary my arse

You talk as if you have any power over the matter Oracle, you clearly don't, you have lost that power long time ago.

We managed to free ourselves from the claws of our racist and violent neighbours and the rest will eventually come, with you our without you, hopefully without.

Union with the rest of Greece meant freedom for the native people who have been oppressed by foreign rulers. You didn't "defend", you attacked. We are not the ones who invaded Turkey, you are the ones who invaded our island.

And all casualties that you had (which were far less than ours) were during the wars that you started against us with the aim to prevent Cyprus from being free.

If you had shown any kind of respect to democracy and the self-determination right of Cypriots then no single nose would break. Rhodes, which also has a Turkish minority on it, united with the rest of Greece in 1947 with no problem at all for anybody.

Don't blame us because you choose war and conflict, instead of respecting the right of the Cypriot people to decide the destiny of their own island in a democratic and peaceful way.

Also you keep repeating about "owning" Cyprus. Who owns Cyprus is its native people my friend. Not any foreign empire which conquers our island and imposes their rule by force.