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Postby insan » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:28 am



Anti-Turkism, also known as Turkophobia or Turcophobia, is hatred or discrimination towards Turkish people, their culture, their government, or their history (such as the Ottoman Empire or Seljuq Empire). They are mostly a collection of stereotypes and ethnic or religious hatred rooted by conflicts of the Turkish government or of the Ottoman Empire. Anti-Turkism originates usually from wars, propaganda, and differences in culture or religion.


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Postby growuptcs » Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:37 am

insan, whats your point to this thread?
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:07 am

growuptcs wrote:insan, whats your point to this thread?


Discussing abt how exaggerated the "anti-turkism" and "Turkophobia". R there any intentional political motives behind it? What can Turks do at least to counter to the intentional, propaganda and provocation type of anti-Turkist verbal attacks that pump, keep alive even spread hatred to a greater extent...
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:50 am

insan wrote:
growuptcs wrote:insan, whats your point to this thread?


Discussing abt how exaggerated the "anti-turkism" and "Turkophobia". R there any intentional political motives behind it? What can Turks do at least to counter to the intentional, propaganda and provocation type of anti-Turkist verbal attacks that pump, keep alive even spread hatred to a greater extent...


They can't do anything about it till the military steps down ruling the country and the judiciary takes over COMPLETELY. Not just in words, but a constitution of equality. Everyone outside of Turkey living in a civil society, wouldn't accept anything less.
Thers a saying of don't hate the player, hate the game. In Turkeys case everyone outside Tukey hates the player and the game because there is no rules to Turkeys sickness.
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:59 am

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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:33 am

growuptcs wrote:
insan wrote:
growuptcs wrote:insan, whats your point to this thread?


Discussing abt how exaggerated the "anti-turkism" and "Turkophobia". R there any intentional political motives behind it? What can Turks do at least to counter to the intentional, propaganda and provocation type of anti-Turkist verbal attacks that pump, keep alive even spread hatred to a greater extent...


They can't do anything about it till the military steps down ruling the country and the judiciary takes over COMPLETELY. Not just in words, but a constitution of equality. Everyone outside of Turkey living in a civil society, wouldn't accept anything less.
Thers a saying of don't hate the player, hate the game. In Turkeys case everyone outside Tukey hates the player and the game because there is no rules to Turkeys sickness.



You must be living in Wonderland where everyone in the world is fair and square other than Turkey the evil bastard. :roll:

Turcophobia is nothing but the childish finger-pointing of the few ultranationalist nations such as the Greeks and the Armenians, who just couldn't have it their way regardless of their exaggeratedly glorified and ethnocentric views they have of themselves.

Grow up and get over it :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:50 pm

shahmaran wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
insan wrote:
growuptcs wrote:insan, whats your point to this thread?


Discussing abt how exaggerated the "anti-turkism" and "Turkophobia". R there any intentional political motives behind it? What can Turks do at least to counter to the intentional, propaganda and provocation type of anti-Turkist verbal attacks that pump, keep alive even spread hatred to a greater extent...


They can't do anything about it till the military steps down ruling the country and the judiciary takes over COMPLETELY. Not just in words, but a constitution of equality. Everyone outside of Turkey living in a civil society, wouldn't accept anything less.
Thers a saying of don't hate the player, hate the game. In Turkeys case everyone outside Tukey hates the player and the game because there is no rules to Turkeys sickness.



You must be living in Wonderland where everyone in the world is fair and square other than Turkey the evil bastard. :roll:

Turcophobia is nothing but the childish finger-pointing of the few ultranationalist nations such as the Greeks and the Armenians, who just couldn't have it their way regardless of their exaggeratedly glorified and ethnocentric views they have of themselves.

Grow up and get over it :lol:


It's not simply unprovoked "Turkophobia" or "anti-Turkism". It is fear and hate for Turkey, in the context of them being an invading and occupying force of Cyprus. Others have their specific reasons for hating or fearing the Turks, some past, some present.

Ours is very much BOTH past and present suffering under the Turks, which justifies the fear/hate; Don't you think this can justifiably continue, until they stop violating our Rights and preventing us access to our homeland?

(BTW: Welcome back. :D Have you lost your job?)
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:22 pm

Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
insan wrote:
growuptcs wrote:insan, whats your point to this thread?


Discussing abt how exaggerated the "anti-turkism" and "Turkophobia". R there any intentional political motives behind it? What can Turks do at least to counter to the intentional, propaganda and provocation type of anti-Turkist verbal attacks that pump, keep alive even spread hatred to a greater extent...


They can't do anything about it till the military steps down ruling the country and the judiciary takes over COMPLETELY. Not just in words, but a constitution of equality. Everyone outside of Turkey living in a civil society, wouldn't accept anything less.
Thers a saying of don't hate the player, hate the game. In Turkeys case everyone outside Tukey hates the player and the game because there is no rules to Turkeys sickness.



You must be living in Wonderland where everyone in the world is fair and square other than Turkey the evil bastard. :roll:

Turcophobia is nothing but the childish finger-pointing of the few ultranationalist nations such as the Greeks and the Armenians, who just couldn't have it their way regardless of their exaggeratedly glorified and ethnocentric views they have of themselves.

Grow up and get over it :lol:


It's not simply unprovoked "Turkophobia" or "anti-Turkism". It is fear and hate for Turkey, in the context of them being an invading and occupying force of Cyprus. Others have their specific reasons for hating or fearing the Turks, some past, some present.

Ours is very much BOTH past and present suffering under the Turks, which justifies the fear/hate; Don't you think this can justifiably continue, until they stop violating our Rights and preventing us access to our homeland?

(BTW: Welcome back. :D Have you lost your job?)


Hello Oracle, good to hear from you again :D

My god! Over 10,000 posts and nothing has changed, talk about needing a job! :lol:

As usual you carefully choose the only parts of history that serve your little blame game. It must be pretty dam fun, because my god, 10,000+?!?!

If your argument was true, it should be true for all and I do not hear such terms being used for other nations which deserve it much more than Turkey. ie. Americanophobia, Israeliphobia, Britaphobia and Grekophobia (fits pretty well too) should DEFINATELY exist, if they already dont :lol: :lol:

Face it, we come from a past where everyone invaded everyone, while some countries did pretty good for themselves at some point, Greeks truly sucked at it and the Cypriots couldn't even get in the game until very late in time which obviously wasn't that well planned as it failed miserably, bringing us to where we are right now.

No number of attacks and blames towards the Turks is ever going to change that, nor purposely calling this island YOUR homeland will make it so.

As opposed to the propagandist fake historical facts, this island was NEVER, at ANY point in history, your homeland alone, and it NEVER will be.

This is where the real underlying reason for the conflict is found, the element that makes way for the partitionists to work their magic. The GC greed and racism that has set them on a long term agenda to make the island theirs alone at any cost, with every non-Greek on it under their rule.

Where they can stop you from opening big businesses, sabotage your existence and development, or even "assists" you to go live in another country, maybe even disappear from the face of the Earth in small groups, never to be found, hoping to bring your numbers down to a minority and then to turn around and cry for democracy and justice! :roll:

Well I don't think anyone will fall for that one again.

We had our chances to live together in a democracy, you blew it and it cost you half of the island, you cant NOW turn around and ask for what is fair :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:55 pm

shahmaran wrote: you cant NOW turn around and ask for what is fair :lol:


Oh well, at least we all acknowledge that what the TC's are asking for in the talks is unfair.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:03 pm

DT. wrote:
shahmaran wrote: you cant NOW turn around and ask for what is fair :lol:


Oh well, at least we all acknowledge that what the TC's are asking for in the talks is unfair.


You are right, I should have used the word "fair" in quotes to make it more clear that it is coming from you.

I did not for a moment believe that your requests where ever anywhere remotely fair.

50-50 is more than fair for a people who violently wanted it ALL in the first place don't you think? :lol:
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