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Postby wallace » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:59 pm

YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:
YFred wrote:Suprise, suprise!

You should also mention that whilst the average EU country spends between 5 and 10% of GDP on arms, Turkey spends on average between 50 and 60% of their GDP on American Arms.

That's not a one way street, its a dual carriage way both directions


Spending that percentage of their GDP on arms explains why they are such a load of uneducated peasants!

I hope I have helped you understand the real Turkish problem.
Uneducated no. Undemocratic and unable to control yes.


What are their plans? A new Ottoman empire? :roll:
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Postby CBBB » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:20 pm

According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:24 pm

CBBB wrote:According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military

May be my figures are a bit out of date, but since when did the CIA ever say anything that is true!
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:31 pm

YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military

May be my figures are a bit out of date, but since when did the CIA ever say anything that is true!


spending 50-60% of a country's GDP on arms is not out of date...its out of this universe.
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Postby Sotos » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:39 pm

DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military

May be my figures are a bit out of date, but since when did the CIA ever say anything that is true!


spending 50-60% of a country's GDP on arms is not out of date...its out of this universe.


50%-60% is impossible. I think Israel has the highest and for sure is not over 15%!
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:44 pm

Sotos wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military

May be my figures are a bit out of date, but since when did the CIA ever say anything that is true!


spending 50-60% of a country's GDP on arms is not out of date...its out of this universe.


50%-60% is impossible. I think Israel has the highest and for sure is not over 15%!


Yfred is just a little confused....
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Postby CBBB » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:51 pm

DT. wrote:
Sotos wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
CBBB wrote:According to the CIA World Factbook they only spend 5.3% of GDP on defence.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... l#Military

May be my figures are a bit out of date, but since when did the CIA ever say anything that is true!


spending 50-60% of a country's GDP on arms is not out of date...its out of this universe.


50%-60% is impossible. I think Israel has the highest and for sure is not over 15%!


Yfred is just a little confused....


Hasn't worked out where the decimal point should be yet!
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:15 pm

YFred wrote:Suprise, suprise!

You should also mention that whilst the average EU country spends between 5 and 10% of GDP on arms, Turkey spends on average between 50 and 60% of their GDP on American Arms.

That's not a one way street, its a dual carriage way both directions


YFred,

Don't confuse the GDP of Turkey, which was around $800 Billion US Dollars for 2008 to the percentage the Turkish Military Budget is spent on American Arms, which may well be around 50%-60% as you stated, but this would make it around 5 Billion US Dollars from the approx. 10-12 Billion US Dollars that the Turkish military had in it's budget, or about 1.5% of Turkey's total GDP.

50-60% GDP of Turkey would be around 400-480 Billion US Dollars, which what the US defence budget is roughly on a GDP of the USA being around 13 Trillion US Dollars, which is 16 times larger than of Turkey's. The American defence budget is around 4% GDP of the USA.

Given the drop in the Turkish Lira by almost 35-40% recently against the US Dollar, the GDP of Turkey will be around 500-600 Billion US Dollars for the year 2009 if the exchange rate remains as today, and if the Turkish military maintains the same amount of money they receive from the Turkish Government, then their military budget would rise to about 2.4% of the GDP from today's 1.5%, still at 12 Billion US Dollars.!

These are just some loose figures and not absolute, but closer to the truth than not.!
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:23 pm

Since when did Turkey give out information regarding statistics?

After the last quake, upon being asked to give information of blood types needed, the Information Minister replied that such information was secret and could be used against Turkey in a Biological/Chemical war hence cannot be divulged.

However, It was not an accurate figure I quoted. You work it out for yourselves.

Percentage spent or arms = (Actual figure declared by Treasury times 2 + American Aid for arms times 2) divided by total GDP divided by 2 X 100

Then see what order the result comes out as single figures or double figures? Nearer to 10s and 20s or nearer to 50s?

Now I know I’ll be done for treason, helping the enemy against Turkey.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:30 pm

World Wide Military Expenditures...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ending.htm
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