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[Bananiot]

It´s okay DT, carry on as you were. Only, the thieves here were the general public, the once we pride ourselves as the generous ones that give magnanimously in November to the radiomarathon reality show farce. Only they do not wear masks then.

[DT.]

It´s okay DT, carry on as you were. Only, the thieves here were the general public, the once we pride ourselves as the generous ones that give magnanimously in November to the radiomarathon reality show farce. Only they do not wear masks then.

I've told you Bananiot. The day you stop enjoying things like these because they somehow prove a twisted point regarding the lower life forms that exist on this island will be the day I agree with you on posts such as this.

Until then don't get upset cause I don't share the same fetishes as you do.

[JimB]

You can not possibly compare the UK and Cyprus in the corruption events.
The UK has one of the most corrupt bunch of politicians , Lords , Bankers and wealthy business people.
The politicians , ALL OF THEM , are in it for as much as they can get , they will claim for anything and everything , just look at the latest news on Mr Darling , our Chancellor !!
The House of Lords is full of good for nothing bloody crooks , some with criminal records and each protecting each others position. I tell you it stinks !
Look at the greedy bankers , the government bails the Bank of Scotland out and LLoyds TSB and what do they want to do. Pay themselves huge bonuses for being such a bloody failure.
A wealty businessman whose wife is a Minister is found guilty of accepting bribes to the tune of £400,000.
Sentenced to 4 years in jail, will he serve a minute in jail , of course not !!
The difference between corruption in Cyprus and corruption in the UK is the same difference as that of one single street prostitute and a 1000 high class whores !

Expected a bit more from you Militiades.

Do you see me mentioning or comparing Cyprus to the UK in my post? Nope, it's not in there.

I'd rather focus on the here and now.

I'm in Cyprus, it's happening here today and it extends to a lot more than a handful of government offices.

By extending your argument I assume you could justify murder and torture by pointing to Zimbabwe, denial of human rights by China etc.

Your only fooling yourself by pointing to another country and saying 'at least it's not as bad as over there'.

Bank bonuses - agree in principal but it's not that simple. It's also wasting commons time that could be better spent helping people keep their jobs and putting food on the table.

House of Lords - long overdue overhaul of regulations under way. Disgusted at the cash for favours scandal and would like them to be booted out, stripped of honours and fined / imprisoned to maximum extent possible. Unfortunately, no offence at law has been caused under the old regs. ergo the overhaul and reform.

I note that you don't mention the police in your post (which was the main thrust of my post).

Could you honestly say that you would ever consider bribing a UK police officer to get off with a traffic offence or other crime??? Happens here.

Even CBBB's in on the act. He's offered to help arrange for a driving licence for somebody on the Paphos Driving Lessons topic. I'm assuming he's not going to limit that advice to just providing the address of the Ministry responsible for the driving test.

[CBBB]

JimB wrote:

Even CBBB's in on the act. He's offered to help arrange for a driving licence for somebody on the Paphos Driving Lessons topic. I'm assuming he's not going to limit that advice to just providing the address of the Ministry responsible for the driving test.

Of course I was just going to provide the address of the Ministry, what else could possibly be done?

[miltiades]

You can not possibly compare the UK and Cyprus in the corruption events.
The UK has one of the most corrupt bunch of politicians , Lords , Bankers and wealthy business people.
The politicians , ALL OF THEM , are in it for as much as they can get , they will claim for anything and everything , just look at the latest news on Mr Darling , our Chancellor !!
The House of Lords is full of good for nothing bloody crooks , some with criminal records and each protecting each others position. I tell you it stinks !
Look at the greedy bankers , the government bails the Bank of Scotland out and LLoyds TSB and what do they want to do. Pay themselves huge bonuses for being such a bloody failure.
A wealty businessman whose wife is a Minister is found guilty of accepting bribes to the tune of £400,000.
Sentenced to 4 years in jail, will he serve a minute in jail , of course not !!
The difference between corruption in Cyprus and corruption in the UK is the same difference as that of one single street prostitute and a 1000 high class whores !

Expected a bit more from you Militiades.

Do you see me mentioning or comparing Cyprus to the UK in my post? Nope, it's not in there.

I'd rather focus on the here and now.

I'm in Cyprus, it's happening here today and it extends to a lot more than a handful of government offices.

By extending your argument I assume you could justify murder and torture by pointing to Zimbabwe, denial of human rights by China etc.

Your only fooling yourself by pointing to another country and saying 'at least it's not as bad as over there'.

Bank bonuses - agree in principal but it's not that simple. It's also wasting commons time that could be better spent helping people keep their jobs and putting food on the table.

House of Lords - long overdue overhaul of regulations under way. Disgusted at the cash for favours scandal and would like them to be booted out, stripped of honours and fined / imprisoned to maximum extent possible. Unfortunately, no offence at law has been caused under the old regs. ergo the overhaul and reform.

I note that you don't mention the police in your post (which was the main thrust of my post).

Could you honestly say that you would ever consider bribing a UK police officer to get off with a traffic offence or other crime??? Happens here.

Even CBBB's in on the act. He's offered to help arrange for a driving licence for somebody on the Paphos Driving Lessons topic. I'm assuming he's not going to limit that advice to just providing the address of the Ministry responsible for the driving test.

You got it wrong Jim , I'm in noway justifying any crimes committed in Cyprus by comparing to crimes committed in other countries.
A crime is crime in whatever country is committed in.
My mentioning the UK corruption is in no way an excuse for police corruption in Cyprus .
I believe that corruption levels in Cyprus , being a much smaller nation than the UK , are much more likely to be highlighted than it is in the UK.
The fact of the matter is that in the UK we have largely an independent media that thrives on exposing corrupt practices by politicians and celebrities.
Our Home secretary recently came under criticism for rent claim expenses and so did our Chancellor. The British politicians with very few exceptions are morally corrupt greedy individuals who are in the game to feather their own nests. There are hundreds of examples if you care to search.

I reiterate again , that corruption and lawlessness is a problem that the Cypriot government has to tackle as a matter of urgency.

[JimB]

JimB wrote:

Even CBBB's in on the act. He's offered to help arrange for a driving licence for somebody on the Paphos Driving Lessons topic. I'm assuming he's not going to limit that advice to just providing the address of the Ministry responsible for the driving test.

Of course I was just going to provide the address of the Ministry, what else could possibly be done?

Glad to hear it CBBB.

I recall my thoughts at the time that you'd have to be off your head to advertise a complicit and commissioning involvement in an illegal act or service on a public bulletin board.

[Bananiot]

I find it harder and harder to understand you these days DT. For a start I m not asking you to agree with me on anything, this is irrelevent. Instead of commending on the story I posted and which was in the news all over last night and in yesterdays papers, you choose to comment on the story teller. Granted, you have a habit of doing this, but it is I think about time you got over this habit (aibi).

[halil]

Everything perfect in ''ROC'' sirs....... rest of the countries are XXXXX

Process of police transfers helping the underworld
By Charles Charalambous

THE LATEST round of police transfers is rife with AKEL party favouritism and is also facilitating crime figures, opposition DISY said yesterday.

The DISY attack came after a series of police transfers have left the force reeling in the wake of the recent escape of recapture of rapist and killer Antonis Prokopiou Kitas, alias Al Capone.

DISY is accusing AKEL of facilitating the transfer and appointment of AKEL party members and supporters over the heads of more experienced candidates.

It suggested this process had benefited certain criminal elements, and that some police officers were complicit in illegal gambling.

DISY leader Nicos Anastassiades yesterday told a news conference: “Instead of upholding the irreproachable criteria of meritocracy, professional performance, honesty and ability, in the main what prevailed in the transfers were criteria dictated by party expediency and other such considerations.”

Anastassiades listed a wide range of allegations to “express its concern” over the alleged lack of meritocracy governing the transfers. It made the police look like a “control-mechanism for promoting party aims and expediency” he said.

“It pains me to say so, but for some people, country comes first; for others, the party comes first,” he added.

Anastassiades was asked whether he was really saying that criminal elements were telling police officers whom to remove or transfer from their post. He replied: “No, we are saying that they are making their influence felt on certain police officers, who then take particular action”, adding: “Corruption reigns supreme, and meritocracy has reached its nadir.”

DISY deputy Ionas Nicoloau said the party favouritism extended to every significant branch of the police force.

He also suggested that there was an ulterior motive for the outward transfer of 11 out of the 14 members of the Larnaca Crime Prevention Unit (OPE), saying that over the last 20 days they had carried out 42 raids on betting shops, confiscating a significant number of computers and making a number of arrests of people involved in electronic gambling, fruit machines, illegal betting and other gambling.

He said specifically that the transfer to Famagusta of three members of the unit who had recently received special training on electronic gambling, “serves the interests of the underworld”, since “they will not have the opportunity to use their new knowledge” in their new postings.

Nicolaou made similar suggestions regarding the Limassol OPE, saying that OPE officers carried out a check in December 2008 on a “well-known” clubhouse suspected of allowing betting to take place, and that they had subsequently received threats that they “would be sorted out and got rid of”. Nicolaou commented that those making the threats “finally succeeded”, as the specific officers were included in the outward transfers.

Referring to Limassol’s Research and Development Department, Nicolaou asked: “How can an officer head up a department of 30 technicians, when he is not familiar with the subject they specialise in?”

When asked if he thought that everything was fine under the previous government, Anastassiades said: “No, but it is clear that some senior officers – not all – are not up to the job, and it is those who concern us.”

He said there were situations in which certain transfers were signed by the third-in-command, when the Chief of Police and his Deputy were in the country.

The implication was that the top two officers “did not want their signature to appear on non-meritocratic transfers.”

Responding yesterday, Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said that transfers did not take account of any party political or ideological criterion. The government “does not employ such practices”, he said.

Perhaps alluding to previous DISY-led governments, he added: “Such practices belong to the past, and when employed in the past they severely harmed the police force, with negative effects in terms of its capabilities.”

Stefanou said that references to junior officers having links to underworld figures were “totally unacceptable, beyond the pale, and also an insult to the police leadership”. “Such statements really lower the level of the debate too far, and there is no question of our stooping to that level,” he said.

Asked why the recent transfer-papers were not signed by the Chief of Police, Stefanou said the process was changed 18 months ago, allowing the Assistant Head of a particular department to execute transfers on behalf of the Chief.

He rejected suggestions that the President had any knowledge of the transfers. He said the Justice Minister had “shared some thoughts” with the Chief of Police, adding: “What the Presidency demands is that there should be a Police Force capable of carrying out its mission”. A statement from Police headquarters called the DISY accusations unfortunate.

* The transfers weakened those departments dealing with crime prevention, especially relating to electronic gambling, fruit machines, prostitution and sex trafficking

* Prior to their transfer, officers were vetted by the secret service (KYP) and AKEL’s “vigilance bureau”

* Officers with just a few months’ service were transferred over the heads of officers with 8 or 9 years’ experience because they were regarded as being close to AKEL.

* The number of members of the Crime Prevention Unit (OPE) in each district has been drastically reduced. Specifically, 19 members were removed from the Limassol OPE, with only 7 transferred in, and 11 out of 14 members of the Larnaca OPE were removed.

* Able officers have been removed from command positions due only to the fact that they did not have links with AKEL, and they have been replaced with officers who either are open AKEL supporters or enjoy the government’s complete confidence.

* “For the first time, the transfer papers were not signed by the Chief of Police.”




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

[Bananiot]

Don't be silly halil. These things happen only in Banana Republics.

[halil]

Don't be silly halil. These things happen only in Banana Republics.

It is true Bananiot .... we have a good habit .....''we never see our own HORNS'' we always talk how bad the others !

when we learn how to clean our front doors than we will get rid off from the Banana Republics of Cyprus.