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[insan]

I do not understand some GCs !rebelling against Turkey would never mean TCs are in the way some nationalists want them to be ( minority living in ROC)..What was it ? yeap swimming together with them ( Thanks G.R)... A community who starts rebelling will rebel against anyone who they think is not giving them the rights they deserve so before enjoying this too much you should think a little bit!!!

You already have much more than what you deserve. 1/3rd of our island. You want more you greedy Turk? You think Turkey will go in the trouble to steal from us and give everything to you? I have a secret for you friend. You think too highly of your small minority. Turkey is just using you to steal north Cyprus for us. That is all you worth. An excuse for Turkey. Nothing more. So come down from the clouds.

When TCs began actively struggling against Enosis idea through the then mass media and domination efforts of GCs in legislative council; the year was 1893. There was no Turkey yet.

Turkey came first then came the TCs. No Chicken and egg dilemma here!

Mrs. Ozoran writes: “The administration of the newspaper was given to the members of the Ottoman Reading House. It was published on Mondays as a weekly newspaper and Kaytazzade Nazim Efendi was one of its writers, who used to publish his articles on various subjects, his essays, translations, poems and novels. Although its editor-in-chief, Muzafferuddin Galip Bey left for Istanbul in the following September, the valuable publication of “Yeni Zaman” continued under the editorship of Faik Bey. The G/C newspaper “Foni dis Gipru” commented that after Galip Bey left, the Yeni Zaman newspaper would stop its publication, unless another writer would be brought from Constantinople. But the T/C intellectuals, especially Kaytazzade Nazim Bey helped a lot to keep the newspaper alive. From then on, the T/C journalism was a fact and took the task to be the tongue, eye and ear of the T/C community despite every kind of difficulty and danger.”16

The Yeni Zaman newspaper is remembered with its struggle against the G/C newspaper “Foni dis Gipru” which started its Enosis (union of Cyprus with Greece) campaign with its issue of 10 January 1893. Accordinng to the advocate Yorgo Shagalli, who was also a G/C member of the Legislative Council, the taxes collected then from the people of the island, to be paid by the British to the Ottoman Empire according to the Cyprus Convention were very heavy and the only way to get rid of this was Enosis. Shagalli wanted to give a conference to this effect, but it was blocked, because it would be contrary to the Article 42 of the G/C Reading House “Kipriagos Syllogos”.

The ”Yeni Zaman” newspaper in its issue of 16 January 1893 reproduced the news, letters and articles about this subject from the columns of the “Foni dis Gipru” newspaper and wrote that these publications were unimportant and did not cause any concern, however, it demanded from the government to stop this kind of publications. Yeni Zaman in its issue of 30 January 1893 reminded that the island of Cyprus was being governed by Britain temporarily and it was in vain for the Cypriot Christian citizens to hope that Enosis could be realized with the demonstrations they staged.17

Faik Bey for a while started to write against Memduh Pasha, but later one day he left Cyprus for Istanbul and never returned. With his absence, “Yeni Zaman” stopped its publication with its last issue of 27 February 1893 (No.28).

http://www.cyaf.org/download/2005/Ahmet%20An.doc

The author Ahmet An is one of the most known and respected researcher/journalist of Cyprus.

http://www.kibris.net/kktc/sanatcilarim ... an_eng.htm

[insan]

“KIBRIS” NEWSPAPER
After “Yeni Zaman” was closed, Kufizade Asaf Bey got the permission in one week to publish the “Kibris” newspaper in his own name. Its first issue was dated 6 March 1893 and the address of the administration of the newspaper was again “The Printing House of the Ottoman Reading House in front of the Sher’i Court in the city of Nicosia of the island of Cyprus.”
In the beginning, “Kibris” respected the principle of being loyal to the Sultan like “Zaman”, but later it adopted a policy sympathizing with the Young Turks and influenced the people in that direction. Although Mufti Ali Rifki tried to reconcile the two conflicting parties, pro- and anti-Young Turks, by issuing a statement to this effect. But it was not possible to have a compromise between the old and new ideas and this situation continued many years long.
Kibris newspaper was published until 1898 and one day suddenly it stopped its publication. A close relative of Kufizade Asaf Bey informed Remzi Okan, (who was the owner of the newspaper “Soz” and wrote “A Short Story of T/C Journalism” ) that Asaf Bey was in correspondence with Memduh Pasha, the Minister of Interior, and he closed his newspaper on the request of the Minister. He even accepted to receive 500 kurushes monthly as a token to his loyalty and he kept on receiving this until the proclamation of the constitutional government in 1908.

ANOTHER YOUNG TURK: AHMET TEVFIK EFENDI
Ahmet Tevfik Efendi, who was born in Rhodes, came to Cyprus after his education in Istanbul and started to work in the “Zaman” newspaper of Hadji Dervish Efendi. When he had a disagreement with Hadji Dervish Efendi, he left “Zaman” and started to publish a fortnightly satirical newspaper called “Kokonoz”, first number being on 27 November 1896.
According to Sukru Hanioglu, Kokonoz had more than 100 subscribers and it was making fun of Muftu’s anti-Young Turk campaign Kokonoz was banned to be imported into the Ottoman Empire , thus its publication was stopped after its 22nd issue. Starting from 17 September 1897, “Kokonoz” changed its name into “Akbaba”(Condor), which was now critizing the Sultan Abdulhamit openly and supporting the Young Turks movement. The number of its subscribers reduced and it was impossible for Ahmet Tevfik Efendi to enter the Empire, because he was convicted to death sentence by Abdulhamit.
Akbaba, too, had to stop its publication with its last 23rd issue of 19 August 1898, but Ahmet Tevfik Efendi managed to publish a weekly newspaper after two years under the name of “Mir’at-i Zaman” (Mirror of Time). This was a serious newspaper and a mouthpiece of the Young Turks. The first issue came out on 3.3.1900, lasting until 11.4.1910 (No.367), with some intervals.
Another pro-Young Turk newspaper, published fortnightly, was “Feryad” (Cry), owned by Hodjazade Osman Enveri Efendi. Its first issue came out on 11 December 1899 as the organ of the “Ittihat ve Terakki Cemiyeti” (Unity and Progress Association) in Cyprus. “Feryad” started to serialize the booklets of the “Cemiyet”, but had to stop its publication after the fourth issue. The owner was put on a salary of 300 kurushes by the Ottoman government.
When the first congress of the Young Turks convened in Paris on 4 Februray 1902, there were participants from Cyprus too.

When "Young Turks" movement initiated among TCs, there was still no Turkey around...

[Piratis]

So in 1893 the Ottomans/Turks/Muslims were issuing newspapers to counter the struggle of the native Cypriot people for liberation from foreign empires?

A few years earlier their reaction was somewhat different:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821

[insan]

So in 1893 the Ottomans/Turks/Muslims were issuing newspapers to counter the struggle of the native Cypriot people for liberation from foreign empires?

A few years earlier their reaction was somewhat different:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821

I didn't deny it. Even as i frequently emphasized i don't accuse or blame anyone regarding what's happened or what they caused. These r the facts happened under the then circmustances in correlation with the universal, national and communal movements, actions and events. In its essentials nothing has changed reagrding the Cyprus problem. As I stated in another thread, there r 3 options to choose and solve the Cyprus problem.

[Piratis]

So in 1893 the Ottomans/Turks/Muslims were issuing newspapers to counter the struggle of the native Cypriot people for liberation from foreign empires?

A few years earlier their reaction was somewhat different:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821

I didn't deny it. Even as i frequently emphasized i don't accuse or blame anyone regarding what's happened or what they caused. These r the facts happened under the then circmustances in correlation with the universal, national and communal movements, actions and events. In its essentials nothing has changed reagrding the Cyprus problem. As I stated in another thread, there r 3 options to choose and solve the Cyprus problem.

Yes, nothing changed. Foreigners occupied our lands and oppressed us then, and the same happens today.

We have the same problem then as we have now. The solution is only one: Freedom to Cyprus from foreign rulers, self-determination, democracy and human rights. Until that happens the Cyprus Problem will continue.

[miltiades]

So in 1893 the Ottomans/Turks/Muslims were issuing newspapers to counter the struggle of the native Cypriot people for liberation from foreign empires?

A few years earlier their reaction was somewhat different:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821

I didn't deny it. Even as i frequently emphasized i don't accuse or blame anyone regarding what's happened or what they caused. These r the facts happened under the then circmustances in correlation with the universal, national and communal movements, actions and events. In its essentials nothing has changed reagrding the Cyprus problem. As I stated in another thread, there r 3 options to choose and solve the Cyprus problem.

Yes, nothing changed. Foreigners occupied our lands and oppressed us then, and the same happens today.

We have the same problem then as we have now. The solution is only one: Freedom to Cyprus from foreign rulers, self-determination, democracy and human rights. Until that happens the Cyprus Problem will continue.

I entirely agree , freedom from foreign rulers including Greece , Britain and the occupying power in denial Turkey .

[Get Real!]

A community who starts rebelling will rebel against anyone who they think is not giving them the rights they deserve so before enjoying this too much you should think a little bit!!!

So what rights do they deserve besides what's in store for them under a democracy?

[Viewpoint]

A community who starts rebelling will rebel against anyone who they think is not giving them the rights they deserve so before enjoying this too much you should think a little bit!!!

So what rights do they deserve besides what's in store for them under a democracy?

Who will administer that "democracy"? thats the important question.

[miltiades]

A community who starts rebelling will rebel against anyone who they think is not giving them the rights they deserve so before enjoying this too much you should think a little bit!!!

So what rights do they deserve besides what's in store for them under a democracy?

Who will administer that "democracy"? thats the important question.

A body of people who have embraced democratic principles and are considered internationaly to be fair and just. This leaves Turkey out !

[Viewpoint]

A community who starts rebelling will rebel against anyone who they think is not giving them the rights they deserve so before enjoying this too much you should think a little bit!!!

So what rights do they deserve besides what's in store for them under a democracy?

Who will administer that "democracy"? thats the important question.

A body of people who have embraced democratic principles and are considered internationaly to be fair and just. This leaves Turkey out !

OK lets say for arguements sake Turkey has gone, the GCs will take control and we will be at their mercy, how will you guarantee our participation and safety?