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Postby brother » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:27 pm

My opinions are that war is not the way forward and any mention of it gets me annoyed, i am unification oriented but if you have been reading any of my posts you would know this.
The reaction i gave your comments i have given to others in the past aswell like piratis, i do not believe in arming up or war, this is not debateble

So whatever happens in cyprus wether it be unification or partition as some dream of i will never support people who will want to arm up and eventually create a war.
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Postby Yiannis » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:07 pm

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In my opinion with partition Cyprus automatically becomes a bomb ready to explode, and i wouldnt want to be there if that happens.


could you be more specific, a bomb do you mean war?? who will attack who???


Sorry for answering late Viewpoint.

Yes by bomb i mean war. At the begining it might seem that things will be going well but inside them the majority of GCs will never accept to loose half of their country like that. So as i said it will be a bomb ready to explode as soon as someone crazy enough comes into power.
If partition ever happens i wouldnt want to live there :(
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Postby detailer » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:13 pm

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In my opinion with partition Cyprus automatically becomes a bomb ready to explode, and i wouldnt want to be there if that happens.


could you be more specific, a bomb do you mean war?? who will attack who???


Sorry for answering late Viewpoint.

Yes by bomb i mean war. At the begining it might seem that things will be going well but inside them the majority of GCs will never accept to loose half of their country like that. So as i said it will be a bomb ready to explode as soon as someone crazy enough comes into power.
If partition ever happens i wouldnt want to live there :(


Is this the case even if TC are left with %22-24 and some fair compensation is paid to GC?
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Postby Yiannis » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:22 pm

Not really.
Whatever means loosing part of what used to be their country will be not accepted imo.
And i also believe that no goverment will ever accept to recognize partition even if the whole world accepts it and that will cause even more trouble.
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Postby Rahmi » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:28 pm

detailer wrote:
Yiannis wrote:
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In my opinion with partition Cyprus automatically becomes a bomb ready to explode, and i wouldnt want to be there if that happens.


could you be more specific, a bomb do you mean war?? who will attack who???


Sorry for answering late Viewpoint.

Yes by bomb i mean war. At the begining it might seem that things will be going well but inside them the majority of GCs will never accept to loose half of their country like that. So as i said it will be a bomb ready to explode as soon as someone crazy enough comes into power.
If partition ever happens i wouldnt want to live there :(


Is this the case even if TC are left with %22-24 and some fair compensation is paid to GC?


I guess this would be the case even if TC are left with 1% and GC are paid whatever they demand. It's not about land or money. GCs just don't want anyone in the island who relate themselves with Turks. Well, at least most of them don´t and the rest of GCs would just shed crocodile tears if the island were to be 100% Greek.
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Postby Yiannis » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:35 pm

I guess this would be the case even if TC are left with 1% and GC are paid whatever they demand. It's not about land or money. GCs just don't want anyone in the island who relate themselves with Turks. Well, at least most of them don´t and the rest of GCs would just shed crocodile tears if the island were to be 100% Greek.


Hey hold on ur breaks there buddy.I hope u didnt deduct that from what i said. GC can easily accept a bizonal solution. Even if A plan was accepted last year the majority of GCs would have accepted it and continue on with their lives. Its not the TCs they dont want but is the thought of loosing what used to be their land in such an unfair way.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:00 pm

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I was responding to Viewpoints allegations and expressed desires for things to come out in such a way so that the TCs end up achieving the partition they have been working and hoping for.


do you ever take the time to read and understand my posts? I have tried to explain myself time and time again yet you insist on not seeing an alternative viewpoint which is fuelled by your own GC administrations actions, they are moving towards partition, if you want to give us this present of recognised then thats your choice continue as you are your doing a great job.

If it worries you as you have said so, then the best way is to make sure you and the TCs do not gear things towards a partition, so that the GCs will have no reason to arm themselves up to the hilt.


Is this a threat? dont consider or even discuss parititon or we will arm ourselves and start a war, thats a great way of looking at things, any war that the south in an insane moment starts they will loose heavily and even the whole island. You should remove war from your brain you seem to be thinking the same as Piratis.

Instead of talking about arming and war and how much you are against recognised partition lobby your administration to get both sides around the table call Talats bluff and see what happens, unless Papadop has other ideas like another term in office, for him even our flag is a problem let alone tollerating the fact that he will have to share with TCs.
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Postby demetriou_74 » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Kifeas
I was responding to Viewpoints allegations and expressed desires for things to come out in such a way so that the TCs end up achieving the partition they have been working and hoping for.


do you ever take the time to read and understand my posts? I have tried to explain myself time and time again yet you insist on not seeing an alternative viewpoint which is fuelled by your own GC administrations actions, they are moving towards partition, if you want to give us this present of recognised then thats your choice continue as you are your doing a great job.

If it worries you as you have said so, then the best way is to make sure you and the TCs do not gear things towards a partition, so that the GCs will have no reason to arm themselves up to the hilt.


not sure but whoever is on about a 2nd war, kindly shut up.

Is this a threat? dont consider or even discuss parititon or we will arm ourselves and start a war, thats a great way of looking at things, any war that the south in an insane moment starts they will loose heavily and even the whole island. You should remove war from your brain you seem to be thinking the same as Piratis.

Instead of talking about arming and war and how much you are against recognised partition lobby your administration to get both sides around the table call Talats bluff and see what happens, unless Papadop has other ideas like another term in office, for him even our flag is a problem let alone tollerating the fact that he will have to share with TCs.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:45 pm

Brother wrote: Am i asking for to much or the impossible


No you are not asking for too much nor for the impossible. All we need is just an agreement for full demilitarisation of both the GCs and the TCs.
I really cannot understand why the police is not enough. Don't the Police have guns?Can’t they use their guns if someone makes trouble or attacks a member of the other community?Can;t they arrest him? The only thing the army can do is make war.All the rest can be done by the Police.Perhaps some army from the EU could also be stationed here if the TCs want.
Why do we need armies? Is anyone planning to do war????
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:46 pm

Murtaza wrote: And I hope that bomb dont explode at the hand of Turkey.


Ha, ha, ha nice one. :lol:

Most propably it will explode in the hands of Greece, Turkey and Cyprus, and then everybody will count their fingers to see how many are missing
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