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[Murtaza]

Why would they allow their economy to depend on the ever falling Turkish lira, if they were independent?

The Turkish Lira has been revalued around 20% over the Euro and the Dollar during the last two years. The Turkish Economy has grown more than 9% in 2004, with a growth expectation of 5% for the year 2005.

I hope so

[detailer]

Pantelis,

TC see themselves "Turkish Cypriot" rather that Turkish or Cypriot imo.

They see themselves different from GC because of bad events in the past, language, religion, some cultural differences. On the other hand, they know that there are some similarities as in the living stye and they (have to) share the same destiny in this small island.

They see themselves different from Turkish because we are not exactly same in culture, religious priorities. Also, with Birtish colonisation in Cyprus, our "destinies" are seperated in some way.

[Rahmi]

Does the GC's see TC's more as Turks or as Cypriots?

[gabaston]

Rahmi

ask any Cypriot in london what they are and eight out of ten say Greek or Turkish.

This present Cypriot generation claim to be Cypriots, its a shame that there parents and their parents and their parents were greek huh?
Who fought for enosis? the cypriots?
Even Makarios fought for Enosis.

Aman all of a sudden we are now all Cypriots ...wow -its a bit late guys.

Only less than a thousand of us were butcherd, because we were Turks, or Tc's, but now we are Cypriot....................

Hey guys thanks for allowing us into the new club...............
We accept. Us on our bit and you on your bit, then we can all be Cypriots together.

[pantelis]

2:59am (UK)
Europe Goes Cold Turkey on Further Expansion

"PA"

European Union leaders plan to make no reference to their ambitious plans to take in Turkey and other neighbours in their joint statement at the end of this week’s summit, officials said today.

It will be the first time in many years that the issue has been dropped from the summit declaration, and is rooted in the dramatic rejection of the EU’s proposed constitution by Dutch and French voters, officials said.

Diplomats confirmed that several paragraphs on expansion to include Turkey and other candidates were being dropped in the latest draft, which was to be finalised by EU ministers ahead of the Thursday-Friday EU leaders’ summit.

At their December summit, EU leaders set a conditional October 3 date to open entry talks with Turkey, if it carried through on commitments to implement economic and political reforms and if it expanded its customs union to include Cyprus.

The latest draft makes no reference to a date, nor does it include text on Croatia, which will not be allowed to started negotiations with the EU until it fully co-operates with the UN’s war crimes tribunal.

European politicians have started to raise doubts in public over the December decision on Turkey, raising fears in Ankara that their European ambitions might be shelved by the EU in the wake of the growing opposition at home and the crisis around the constitution.

Austrian Finance Minister Karl-Heinz Grasser said yesterday that Turkish membership “would make excessive demands of Europe.”

He said he saw the constitution’s rejection in France and the Netherlands as “a warning shot” in opposition to Turkey’s membership.

Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos acknowledged two weeks ago, after the French and Dutch referendums, that “without a doubt” the two rejections were “going to affect” further expansion plans.

Polls in France and the Netherlands showed that opposition to Turkey’s membership was one of the key reasons voters gave for opposing the EU constitution.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso has tried to water down the fears, saying expansion and the constitution “were not connected.”

Many Europeans find it hard to accept taking in Turkey, a mainly Muslim country with 70 million people, poor and culturally different from a predominantly Christian Europe.

The EU has already rejected demands from Ukraine that it be given entry prospects and is hinting that the accession of Romania and Bulgaria, which are set to join in 2007, could be delayed by a year because they are not ready.


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I rephrase and ask my question again:

What do the Turkish Cypriots wish?
To become (remain) a part of Turkey, or become a part of the EU (by uniting the rest of Cyprus), if it becomes evident that that Turkey does not stand a chance to be part of the EU?

[Main_Source]

Aman all of a sudden we are now all Cypriots ...wow -its a bit late guys.

Only less than a thousand of us were butcherd, because we were Turks, or Tc's, but now we are Cypriot....................

Hey guys thanks for allowing us into the new club...............
We accept. Us on our bit and you on your bit, then we can all be Cypriots together.

butchered? is that another label? how many GC were butchered before 1974 too? how many GC were butchered in hundreds of years of Turkish Ottoman opression? How many innocnet GC were harrassed by the british with the help of TC policemen?

and when you going to get it through your thick head...its not 'your' bit...most of the land you acquire is stolen by a foreign entity called Turkey.[/quote]

[-mikkie2-]

What do the Turkish Cypriots wish?
To become (remain) a part of Turkey, or become a part of the EU (by uniting the rest of Cyprus), if it becomes evident that that Turkey does not stand a chance to be part of the EU?

Perhaps Turkey wants to use the fact that the WHOLE of Cyprus is in the EU so that she can use it as a conduit to the EU for her own purposes. For example, I wonder how many Turks will obtain RoCy passports over the next few years and effectively become EU citizens...

[sadik]

2:59am (UK)
I rephrase and ask my question again:

What do the Turkish Cypriots wish?
To become (remain) a part of Turkey, or become a part of the EU (by uniting the rest of Cyprus), if it becomes evident that that Turkey does not stand a chance to be part of the EU?

Pantelis, Turkish Cypriots in general do not want to be a part of Turkey. For most of us, Turkey is a special country where part of our cultural heritage comes from, but Cyprus is our home and country.

[Kifeas]

2:59am (UK)
I rephrase and ask my question again:

What do the Turkish Cypriots wish?
To become (remain) a part of Turkey, or become a part of the EU (by uniting the rest of Cyprus), if it becomes evident that that Turkey does not stand a chance to be part of the EU?

Pantelis, Turkish Cypriots in general do not want to be a part of Turkey. For most of us, Turkey is a special country where part of our cultural heritage comes from, but Cyprus is our home and country.

Mr. Sadik,

When you say Cyprus is your home country, do you mean the “TRNC” -what we GCs call the occupied north Cyprus, or Cyprus in general -from one end to the other, from Karpas to Pafos, from kyrenia to Limassol?

[brother]

Cyprus as a whole is home to all cypriots as one piece wether they be GC or TC, no one half is exclusive to one community, it just current circumstances that make it seem that way, i would bleed and die for the whole of cyprus not one half of it and would protect all cypriots whatever dialect they choose to speak, these are my views but when more of us start to think this way then the better for all of us.