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Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:23 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Your article called The REAL ancestors of the Cypriots is factualy incorrect other than that I didn't find any fault as yet.

Thanks for checking it out and commenting but it helps to point out where you disagree. You can do it here because that article is not to be found on the CF so I can't direct you to a dedicated thread.
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Postby samarkeolog » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:samarkeolog, the relevant thread is here...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0


Sorry, didn't see it.
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:43 pm

Good effort. I shall provide comments when I've had a chance to go through it in more detail.
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:21 pm

Sure that this will develop in to a valuable resource in the National Struggle.

May I suggest the inclusion of this link to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights please GR....

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

I don't think it was there when I looked last night, clearly pertinent to CY and from a "credible source".

May I also say this about "credible links"... imho first hand eye-witness testimony if reported by a credible, independent journalist is OK....and also (and I know that this will be contentious).... personal, on the ground, at the time, reports from well respected, non-propagandist forumers should also be considered for inclusion at the editor's discretion. Readers can also make their own judgements as to worth.

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:37 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Sure that this will develop in to a valuable resource in the National Struggle.

May I suggest the inclusion of this link to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights please GR....

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

I don't think it was there when I looked last night, clearly pertinent to CY and from a "credible source".

May I also say this about "credible links"... imho first hand eye-witness testimony if reported by a credible, independent journalist is OK....and also (and I know that this will be contentious).... personal, on the ground, at the time, reports from well respected, non-propagandist forumers should also be considered for inclusion at the editor's discretion. Readers can also make their own judgements as to worth.

Thank You

Thanks for the link Bill, I'll include it tonight.

With regards to first hand eye-witnesses and such… they’re good in a court case that deals with individual cases of war crimes, the unaccounted for, etc, but of what value are they to answer questions such as “What is democracy?”, or “The 1950 plebiscite…”, etc, which is more the kind of topics we deal with?

The credible links I often refer to are ones which we can utilize to study/research the technical aspect of the CyProb and not so much the humanitarian.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:15 pm

I am really pleased you've archived your many interesting and well researched threads into one easy to access resource.

The weak point is your personal view on the importance to date, of the Chorokitian connection. They were clearly part of Cyprus history, but so long ago, and so well absorbed subsequently, by the Greeks, from whom they were probably connected to via an even earlier branch (the general European/Mid-East population being so meagre at that time), that they are indiscernible from the vast majority who are more recently of Greek descent in terms of culture, language, religion, alongside continual ongoing mixing with mainland Greece, for over a few thousand years thereafter. The dilution effect .... :D
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:28 pm

Oracle wrote:I am really pleased you've archived your many interesting and well researched threads into one easy to access resource.

The weak point is your personal view on the importance to date, of the Chorokitian connection. They were clearly part of Cyprus history, but so long ago, and so well absorbed subsequently, by the Greeks, from whom they were probably connected to via an even earlier branch (the general European/Mid-East population being so meagre at that time), that they are indiscernible from the vast majority who are more recently of Greek descent in terms of culture, language, religion, alongside continual ongoing mixing with mainland Greece, for over a few thousand years thereafter. The dilution effect .... :D

I intentionally left out the Cypriot Nationalism issues, except for one that got away, because I understand that some GCs will have problems dealing with some of these issues and I wouldn’t want to taint the more important CyProb issues right now, so I may create a separate website for all that… :lol:
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Postby Antreis » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:03 pm

Very interesting site.
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Re: The Cyprus Problem Myth Buster website…

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:23 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:GR presents you with… “The Cyprus Problem Myth Buster!” website, currently online under the free web hosting services of 100WebSpace until further notice, (which unfortunately includes the web host’s ads at the top), featuring many GR articles written over the years on the CyProb.

The premise was to keep it short, sweet, clear, and simple, and many more articles will be added soon, and hopefully a search function to quickly find relevant facts on any given issue...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net

All feedback is welcome…

Regards, GR.


Free web space hosting is an excellent tool and should be utilised by many Cyprus Problems activists, as a tool to further factual content about the Cyprus Problem. :D

http://www.100webspace.com/

Unfortunately it is also open to abuse as any Tom, Dick and Harry can also write nonsensical articles based on their opinion and not fact. :D

Naturally, those that actually pay a proper web host and contribute real facts are those that really do care about the Cyprus Problem. The same individuals don't put their ego ahead of the national cause either.

Here is a list of real sources portraying real facts and not historical distortions:

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/

http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=article&id=9433

http://www.cyprusactionnetwork.org/

http://en.sae.gr/?id=12657&sn=2



I was very disappointed whilst browsing through the PSEKA website, no mention was made of the Human Rights violations of Turkish Cypriots from 1963 - 1974. Hence these are not impartial and are only as good as GRs 'incredible' evidence posts. Back to the drawing board. Where is the impartiality re Bafidis.
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Postby kafenes » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:31 pm

Well Done! Great site GR. Even though I believe Chirokitia is not the oldest settlement in Cyprus. Pareklisha/Shillourokambos is around 1500 years older.
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