YFred wrote: You are pretending to be rather naive. The words "Bir Turk Dunyaya Bedeldir", was said during the period when The Yanks, British, Russians, Greeks, Italians and a few others descended on Turkey in it weakest moment. What a man to come along and pull a country together and defeat the major powers of the time. With what? Courage!
Yes YFred, I know! And because Anatolia also today, continues to be invaded by the Yanks, British, Russians, Greeks, Italians and a few others, that is why the "one Turk equals the whole world" slogan is posing on many mountains, buildings, and schools of Turkey, in order to defeat all those invaders! I know!! It has absolutely nothing to do with Turkish nationalism, which is not institutionalized at all in Turkey and is not promoted at all by the Kemalist system! It is only to confront the invaders, the reason it is used today!
As you refuse to answer the last question,
Which question?
I’ll try this one. I keep hearing you say, TCs were not touched by Sampson. It was an excuse Turkey used to invade. The Greek ambassador said it and also a lot of moderate GC’s said it just after 74, “Greece was responsible for 1974”
For the sake of argument, let us assume that the above is not relevant.
You are very confusing! What is the accurate and the "relevant," that the "TCs were not touched by Sampson and, it was an excuse Turkey used to invade," or that “Greece was responsible for 1974?” You are very confusing!
Can you tell me what was the coup of 74 for. What was their mission and vision. If it wasn’t for violent enosis, then after overthrowing Makarios and killing all the GC opposition, what were they going to do with the TC’s. Were they just going to ask them nicely to join with Greece and assuming that the TC’s said no, what was Sampson planning?
YFred, what the coup was about, who committed it and what their mission and vision was, it is a well known fact to anyone who was not lazy enough to have investigated those events, and did not rely instead on easy slogans and propaganda to form a cheap opinion, like most Turks and TCs had chosen to do!
Now, are you suggesting that because there was a coup by the national guard to overthrow Makarios, and because the Greek Cypriots resisted it and there were deaths on both sides; that this entitled Turkey to invade by sending 100 fighter jets to start bombing all over Cyprus, and another 50 battle ships to land 40,000 troops, occupy half of Cyprus, ethnically cleanse the indigenous population of the northern part, the GCs, occupy the area, deny the refugees the return to their lands, usurp their homes and properties, and bring its own people from Turkey to colonize the occupied north? Is this what you are trying to suggest, that Turkey was legitimized in any way possible to do any of all the above that it committed in 1974 and after wards? Is this your suggestion? If so, how many military coups there existed in Turkey, and how many times the Americans, the Russians or any other more powerful state have invaded Turkey, because of those coups against the elected governments of Turkey? Can you tell me how many, if any, and why none? Can you tell me how many times another country invaded and occupied Turkey, for violating the Kurds rights? In your little theory, Turkey should have been invaded more than 100 times by now, because every now and then there is military coup there, and the violation of the Kurd’ rights and their harassment, every time they have to celebrate a national holiday or demonstrate for their rights, is an ongoing phenomenon. Why do you not complain that Turkey is not invaded, since you support that Cyprus's invasion was a necessity and a right thing to have done, because of the mere speculation that the TCs would have been affected?