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[Get Real!]

thanks ......

we do not want to be minority ;; get assimilated neither by Turkey nor by GCs ...We want to live on this island peacefully because for the first itme we have a chance to have complete freedom

NOT on Cyprus! Go back to wherever you came from because here the indigenous Cypriots are the overwhelming MAJORITY and if you’re not swimming with them you’re swimming against... so in future don't come complaining about an “Akritas II” or “Byzantium IV”!

[insan]

1- If GC commnity genuinely accepts TC community as a "politically equal" state partner under a bi-zonal, bi-comunal federal state.

2- If TC community genuinely accepts to be considered as a muslim minority of Cyprus under a unitary state.

3- If both communities genuinely accepts the official partition of Cyprus.

My choice is number 1, if not possible number 3.

Are you compromising anything in either one?

Yes, compromise as much as possible and gradually; depending what we could compromise and what we have to compromise...

[halil]

[DT.]

1- If GC commnity genuinely accepts TC community as a "politically equal" state partner under a bi-zonal, bi-comunal federal state.

2- If TC community genuinely accepts to be considered as a muslim minority of Cyprus under a unitary state.

3- If both communities genuinely accepts the official partition of Cyprus.

My choice is number 1, if not possible number 3.

Are you compromising anything in either one?

Yes, compromise as much as possible and gradually; depending what we could compromise and what we have to compromise...

Not what I was asking. Where in either point 1 or 3 are you (tc's) making a compromise?

[insan]

1- If GC commnity genuinely accepts TC community as a "politically equal" state partner under a bi-zonal, bi-comunal federal state.

2- If TC community genuinely accepts to be considered as a muslim minority of Cyprus under a unitary state.

3- If both communities genuinely accepts the official partition of Cyprus.

My choice is number 1, if not possible number 3.

Are you compromising anything in either one?

Yes, compromise as much as possible and gradually; depending what we could compromise and what we have to compromise...

Not what I was asking. Where in either point 1 or 3 are you (tc's) making a compromise?

My reply is related with 1 or 3. Be more specific please...

[Ierini-Baris]

thanks ......

we do not want to be minority ;; get assimilated neither by Turkey nor by GCs ...We want to live on this island peacefully because for the first itme we have a chance to have complete freedom

NOT on Cyprus! Go back to wherever you came from because here the indigenous Cypriots are the overwhelming MAJORITY and if you’re not swimming with them you’re swimming against... so in future don't come complaining about an “Akritas II” or “Byzantium IV”!

Get Real I do not see freedom in TRNC but do not see freedom as a minority in ROC. I have and will always support the reunion of Cyprus even though facists attacks from people like you discourage me. I have no fear from struggle!!! you facists are minority according to me and will have to swim in the same water with all Cypriots craving for peace and unified Cyprus when an appropriate solution occurs..

[halil]

thanks ......

we do not want to be minority ;; get assimilated neither by Turkey nor by GCs ...We want to live on this island peacefully because for the first itme we have a chance to have complete freedom

NOT on Cyprus! Go back to wherever you came from because here the indigenous Cypriots are the overwhelming MAJORITY and if you’re not swimming with them you’re swimming against... so in future don't come complaining about an “Akritas II” or “Byzantium IV”!

Get Real I do not see freedom in TRNC but do not see freedom as a minority in ROC. I have and will always support the reunion of Cyprus even though facists attacks from people like you discourage me. I have no fear from struggle!!! you facists are minority according to me and will have to swim in the same water with all Cypriots craving for peace and unified Cyprus when an appropriate solution occurs..

he will not understand u Baris ..... he stuck in to his dream world !!!!!

''indigenous Cypriots ''

[Sotos]

Werent they the first settlers on the island . As far as I know and history suggests they were...

Which history suggests this? Which are your sources?

The first written source shows Cyprus under Assyrian rule

I am trying to improve my knowledge because its too complicated for me many empires ,kingdoms, different Greeks fighting for Cyprus..Not trying to make a point that you make the island Greek. I respect the Greek existence in the island for hundreads of years...

You keep confusing foreign rulers with the people of Cyprus. The Assyrians did not settle in Cyprus (not in any significant numbers at least), and they did not create their own settlements on the island.

According to some theories the Assyrians were the first foreign rulers and forced the Cypriot kings of the Cypriot city kingdoms to be subjected to them and maybe pay tributes to them. Thats about it. This happened at around 700BC, many centuries after the Greeks settled on the island.

Thank you for the info Piratis...I will ask you one last question...Where from TCs descend..Were they just send to Cyprus in an unbiased way?

Can you clarify your question please? I am not sure what you mean by "send to Cyprus in an unbiased way".

The TCs descend? It appears that when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus they brought to the island some 10s of thousands of Muslim Settlers from Anatolia. Personally I doubt that all (or even most) of those Muslims were actually Turks. Then according to some sources, some Greek Cypriots and also Latins became Muslims during Ottoman rule in order to be treated better and pay less taxes.

Then at some point around 1900s, some in the newly formed Turkey decided that all Muslims should be called Turks. They did this in Turkey itself, and they applied the same for the Muslim minority in Cyprus. Many of those Muslims didn't even speak Turkish, but had Greek as their native language! And yet they were all grouped together and labeled "Turkish Cypriots", and that is how the TC minority was created.

Later on the Turkish policy was to remove anything non-Turkish from their newly formed "Turkish Cypriot" community, so they prohibited to these people to speak Greek, and forced them to fully Turkify.

Well Piratis I guess you are only interested in mighty Greek history...By unbiased I mean on chance..No Most of the TCs were Turkmens exiled to Cyprus by Ottoman Empire who were partisan of the caliph ali. They were also prohibited to continiue their services by seperating the families. Did you ever think why TCS are not religious or do not go to mosque ?

Becasue caliph ali was killed in mosque. So Turkmen around Anatolia was assimilated by Ottomans in Cyprus but they were always Turks( majority) and we speak Turkish that has similarity to Turkish used in old times by Turkmens..We were an exiled assimilated community that is why we do not want to be minority ;; get assimilated neither by Turkey nor by GCs ...We want to live on this island peacefully because for the first itme we have a chance to have complete freedom...

On this island you are a minority. It is not our fault if Ottomans exiled you or whatever else you claim. If you have a problem with what Ottomans did, you should solve it with Turkey. Imagine if after the Turkish invasion ethnically cleansed us from north part of Cyprus we took the lands of the Armenians and Latins to cover some of our losses.

No part of our island is going to be gifted to anybody. Your minority is welcomed to stay on this island as equal Cypriot citizens. We have other minorities in Cyprus as well, and the Armenians in particular also came to Cyprus to avoid genocide in Turkey. We live peacefully with all other minorities and we can do it with you as well. But if you want to take part of our island to make it Turkish, then that means war, not peace.

How did you get to the point we are trying to make the island Turkish ? I have never said that ? You can not compare as with Armenians or Latines or Maronites ( who are not that happy with ROC by the way ).. A poupulaton around 20 % is not called a minority ..As long as you keep calling TCs minority or others a solution is not possible. Lands and everythingelse is not that important but being referred as minority is something no TC will accept.

I guess you are still too angry and mention war out of no where. I thought your thirst for war was over in 1974 when many innocent people died because of Greek and Turkish nationalists...

Look asshole, you are occupying our land and this means war. You want peace? GIVE US BACK OUR LAND. There is no peace without you giving back our land. Get it? If land is not important to you then why don't you fuck off to where you came from?

[Oracle]

thanks ......

we do not want to be minority ;; get assimilated neither by Turkey nor by GCs ...We want to live on this island peacefully because for the first itme we have a chance to have complete freedom

NOT on Cyprus! Go back to wherever you came from because here the indigenous Cypriots are the overwhelming MAJORITY and if you’re not swimming with them you’re swimming against... so in future don't come complaining about an “Akritas II” or “Byzantium IV”!

Get Real I do not see freedom in TRNC but do not see freedom as a minority in ROC. I have and will always support the reunion of Cyprus even though facists attacks from people like you discourage me. I have no fear from struggle!!! you facists are minority according to me and will have to swim in the same water with all Cypriots craving for peace and unified Cyprus when an appropriate solution occurs..

The fascists are your people who invaded our country not once, not twice but many times; each time killing more and more of the native Cypriots who have never left this country to cause problems to anybody else.

If you love freedom so much, do not deprive others of it, otherwise accept you are just fascists.

If you impose your numerical disadvantage over us, then you are once again a fascist.

By all accounts you are prime fascists, and no more ....

[Piratis]

If you love freedom so much, do not deprive others of it

I agree with Oracle.

They invade us and then they want to "free" our land from us?

They start a war and then they expect that peace can come with us surrendering to them what they took with the war they started?