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Is direct trade with the “TRNC” legal?

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Postby AWE » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:29 pm

And Russia is not a member but trades freely (ish), WTO membership is not a pre-requisite for trade. In short member nations have agreed to certain trade rules and abide buy them but if two nations/government wish to allow trade between each other then that is up to them - see the Syrian Ferry link with regards "TRNC".
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Postby CopperLine » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:50 pm

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Is direct trade with the “TRNC” legal?
Yes, if a state has no explicit policy against trading with the TRNC. No, if a state has an explicit policy against trading with the TRNC. The WTO is irrelevant to this question.


For all states (except Turkey) the "trnc" doesn't even exist as a state. So how can you have an explicit policy for not trading with something that doesn't event exist?


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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:15 pm

This is a side note to the above topic.

Turkey has been telling the EU, that Turkey will be a "great asset" to the EU once in the club with it's 70+ million population, but where is the indication, that this statement is true.!

Lets look at the "trnc", which is occupied by Turkey, run by Turkey, and there are open trade and Direct travel available to all Turks to the north from Turkey. With 70+ million Turks just 40 miles north of the "trnc", why hasn't the "trnc" benefited from this mighty "economic power house" by it's citizens. If every 70+ million Turks invested as little as 1 dollar a day through imports and holidaying in the north to help the TC's, that would bring around $26 Billion US Dollars into the TC's economy.! So why isn't the Turks supporting their "little cousins" in the north with their economic power.? The TC's already have a DIRECT TRADE and DIRECT FLIGHTS with Turkey, so why hasn't that help the TC's to become economically independent from the Turkish Governments economic control of them. If 70+ million fellow Brotherly Turks are not doing very much to make the north into an economic oasis, why would the rest of non Brotherly Europeans.? Is it because the north does not have very much in what others want.? It's question that needs to be asked, because so far, the 70+ Million Turks have been looking all other directions as to where to spend their money, any other place, except 40 miles to the south.!

Too much emphasis been put to the Direct Flight and Trade to help the TC's in the north, when 70+ million Turks are not doing very much when only 40 miles away, one should not expect miracles from afar distances from the rest of Europe. One more reason for the TC's to become part of Cyprus to reach their potentials economically as one country and one people. The last 35 years has proven them wrong, that going it alone, was not the best policy. Now is the time for the TC's to make use of the whole island to prosper economically, and be part of the EU, the UN and the International community.!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:49 am

Turkey is incompatible with the EU any which way you look at it but more importantly, her huge number of unemployed and unskilled people most likely waiting to join the European dole queues is not the way forward for the EU.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:50 am

Get Real! wrote:Turkey is incompatible with the EU any which way you look at it but more importantly, her huge number of unemployed and unskilled people most likely waiting to join the European dole queues is not the way forward for the EU.


What makes you think they are unskilled?

Germany didn't think so, neither did England nor Holland and hell, I thought the EU was all about the flooding of the unemployed, since those rich bastards cant do anything for themselves, this is the backlash of colonialism, ironic! :lol:

I say screw the EU all together! 8)
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:56 am

Also just in case anyone missed this little article, i thought it was significant :)

Two work boats were manufactured in occupied Famagusta and exported to Netherlands
Turkish Cypriot daily Halkin Sesi newspaper (11.02.09) reports that for the first time two work boats were manufactured by the Shipyard Famagusta Company Ltd. in occupied Famagusta and exported to the Netherlands for the price of 1.5 million euro. The boats were loaded on a big ship and sent yesterday afternoon to the Netherlands. The Dutch investor Andre Shelling, who bought the boats, was yesterday at the occupied port of Famagusta during the loading. The Director of the Shipyard Famagusta Ltd. Mr Ramazan Gundogdu said that the crane used for winching the boats was brought from south Cyprus. He also added that the international inspection for the boats was carried out by the French Loyd shipping company.


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2009/09-02-11.tcpr.html
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:51 pm

shahmaran wrote:Also just in case anyone missed this little article, i thought it was significant :)

Two work boats were manufactured in occupied Famagusta and exported to Netherlands
Turkish Cypriot daily Halkin Sesi newspaper (11.02.09) reports that for the first time two work boats were manufactured by the Shipyard Famagusta Company Ltd. in occupied Famagusta and exported to the Netherlands for the price of 1.5 million euro. The boats were loaded on a big ship and sent yesterday afternoon to the Netherlands. The Dutch investor Andre Shelling, who bought the boats, was yesterday at the occupied port of Famagusta during the loading. The Director of the Shipyard Famagusta Ltd. Mr Ramazan Gundogdu said that the crane used for winching the boats was brought from south Cyprus. He also added that the international inspection for the boats was carried out by the French Loyd shipping company.


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2009/09-02-11.tcpr.html

You have hit the real reason why GCs are so afraid of the direct trade with the TRNC. Can you imagen what would happen to the Tourist indusrty in the south if there was direct flights to the north.

Can anybody explain the morality of price to send a car from London to Magusa is £2000 whilst the same to Limasos is £500.
RoC=Legalised Robbery
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:14 pm

YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Also just in case anyone missed this little article, i thought it was significant :)

Two work boats were manufactured in occupied Famagusta and exported to Netherlands
Turkish Cypriot daily Halkin Sesi newspaper (11.02.09) reports that for the first time two work boats were manufactured by the Shipyard Famagusta Company Ltd. in occupied Famagusta and exported to the Netherlands for the price of 1.5 million euro. The boats were loaded on a big ship and sent yesterday afternoon to the Netherlands. The Dutch investor Andre Shelling, who bought the boats, was yesterday at the occupied port of Famagusta during the loading. The Director of the Shipyard Famagusta Ltd. Mr Ramazan Gundogdu said that the crane used for winching the boats was brought from south Cyprus. He also added that the international inspection for the boats was carried out by the French Loyd shipping company.


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2009/09-02-11.tcpr.html

You have hit the real reason why GCs are so afraid of the direct trade with the TRNC. Can you imagen what would happen to the Tourist indusrty in the south if there was direct flights to the north.

Can anybody explain the morality of price to send a car from London to Magusa is £2000 whilst the same to Limasos is £500.
RoC=Legalised Robbery


So, who is ripping you off with the extra £1500.?

Let me guess.! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:49 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Also just in case anyone missed this little article, i thought it was significant :)

Two work boats were manufactured in occupied Famagusta and exported to Netherlands
Turkish Cypriot daily Halkin Sesi newspaper (11.02.09) reports that for the first time two work boats were manufactured by the Shipyard Famagusta Company Ltd. in occupied Famagusta and exported to the Netherlands for the price of 1.5 million euro. The boats were loaded on a big ship and sent yesterday afternoon to the Netherlands. The Dutch investor Andre Shelling, who bought the boats, was yesterday at the occupied port of Famagusta during the loading. The Director of the Shipyard Famagusta Ltd. Mr Ramazan Gundogdu said that the crane used for winching the boats was brought from south Cyprus. He also added that the international inspection for the boats was carried out by the French Loyd shipping company.


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2009/09-02-11.tcpr.html

You have hit the real reason why GCs are so afraid of the direct trade with the TRNC. Can you imagen what would happen to the Tourist indusrty in the south if there was direct flights to the north.

Can anybody explain the morality of price to send a car from London to Magusa is £2000 whilst the same to Limasos is £500.
RoC=Legalised Robbery


So, who is ripping you off with the extra £1500.?

Let me guess.! :lol: :lol: :lol:

This was a quote from a UK transport company. It makes me lough when some forumers lough at the TCs for not being able to stand on their two feet.
I personally hold RoC responsible for this situation, simply because I am a RoC Citizen, I have done nothing wrong and I am being punished because of Denktash or RoT. Blanket punishment is aginst international law, but As was said before UN isn't exactly UN is it?
It does not stop RoC from being totally immoral towards it Citizens on the other side of the Green line.
Unfortunately our Coban was not very good at arguing our point.
Now Talat is another matter.
There was GC north of the line, did they get the same treatment from RoC. Hell they did. So Racism springs to mind
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:44 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Also just in case anyone missed this little article, i thought it was significant :)

Two work boats were manufactured in occupied Famagusta and exported to Netherlands
Turkish Cypriot daily Halkin Sesi newspaper (11.02.09) reports that for the first time two work boats were manufactured by the Shipyard Famagusta Company Ltd. in occupied Famagusta and exported to the Netherlands for the price of 1.5 million euro. The boats were loaded on a big ship and sent yesterday afternoon to the Netherlands. The Dutch investor Andre Shelling, who bought the boats, was yesterday at the occupied port of Famagusta during the loading. The Director of the Shipyard Famagusta Ltd. Mr Ramazan Gundogdu said that the crane used for winching the boats was brought from south Cyprus. He also added that the international inspection for the boats was carried out by the French Loyd shipping company.


http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2009/09-02-11.tcpr.html

You have hit the real reason why GCs are so afraid of the direct trade with the TRNC. Can you imagen what would happen to the Tourist indusrty in the south if there was direct flights to the north.

Can anybody explain the morality of price to send a car from London to Magusa is £2000 whilst the same to Limasos is £500.
RoC=Legalised Robbery


So, who is ripping you off with the extra £1500.?

Let me guess.! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:
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