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[shahmaran]

I'm not going to bother searching for written evidence just to prove something to you that the whole world knows, tell GR to take a look in his propaganda archive, surely he is clever enough to research the accounts of both sides

If you don't think the barbaric actions were not mutual than that's your loss for not really knowing enough about the situation.

We’ve talked about the 65 odd TCs murdered in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha, dozens of times. But where did you get the thousands of victims from, if not through your "credible" arse?

Well I think it should be pretty evident to you by now GR that, you "talking", does not mean anything...

You gave more casualties because you had more people out to murder us, mean anything?

Numbers do not change intentions.

Plus I have never for once put forward any numerical estimations, that is your crappy style

[Get Real!]

I'm not going to bother searching for written evidence just to prove something to you that the whole world knows, tell GR to take a look in his propaganda archive, surely he is clever enough to research the accounts of both sides

If you don't think the barbaric actions were not mutual than that's your loss for not really knowing enough about the situation.

We’ve talked about the 65 odd TCs murdered in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha, dozens of times. But where did you get the thousands of victims from, if not through your "credible" arse?

Well I think it should be pretty evident to you by now GR that, you "talking", does not mean anything...

You gave more casualties because you had more people out to murder us, mean anything?

Numbers do not change intentions.

Plus I have never for once put forward any numerical estimations, that is your crappy style

Maybe we should all just give up reading/researching and just listen to your "credible" arse!

[bill cobbett]

God these sodiers were must have been real randy or all taking viagra.

Do you want your stupid comment included in that report?

I don't think that document has space for anymore stupid comments

But thanks for posting more poorly documented propaganda material polis, I don't see how that answers my question.

Turkish denials...

Nothing new!

If these so called "documents" lack the facts about the violence imposed on my people, they are nothing but garbage to me.

Shah, would you be so good as to post credible evidence on mass killings of defenceless civilians and murders of prisoners of war and the rape of women suffered by your people on similar scale please.

You can go visit the mass graves of the women, children and old folk they buried alive in mass graves, only then will you realize the scale of hate and venom GCs have towards TCs.

VP....Shah was asked the following by me,

Shah, would you be so good as to post credible evidence on mass killings of defenceless civilians and murders of prisoners of war and the rape of women suffered by your people on similar scale please.

If you have credible evidence of the murders of thousands of your people and the raping of hundreds of women, on the attrocious scale of 74 ..please post the links to the evidence for our consideration.

[shahmaran]

I'm not going to bother searching for written evidence just to prove something to you that the whole world knows, tell GR to take a look in his propaganda archive, surely he is clever enough to research the accounts of both sides

If you don't think the barbaric actions were not mutual than that's your loss for not really knowing enough about the situation.

We’ve talked about the 65 odd TCs murdered in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha, dozens of times. But where did you get the thousands of victims from, if not through your "credible" arse?

Well I think it should be pretty evident to you by now GR that, you "talking", does not mean anything...

You gave more casualties because you had more people out to murder us, mean anything?

Numbers do not change intentions.

Plus I have never for once put forward any numerical estimations, that is your crappy style

Maybe we should all just give up reading/researching and just listen to your "credible" arse!

No no, I think the world can do just fine with your little ghetto ass website alone, seems like you have done all the work, all the research and still ended up as another racist scumbag, well done sport, keep it up

[shahmaran]

God these sodiers were must have been real randy or all taking viagra.

Do you want your stupid comment included in that report?

I don't think that document has space for anymore stupid comments

But thanks for posting more poorly documented propaganda material polis, I don't see how that answers my question.

Turkish denials...

Nothing new!

If these so called "documents" lack the facts about the violence imposed on my people, they are nothing but garbage to me.

Shah, would you be so good as to post credible evidence on mass killings of defenceless civilians and murders of prisoners of war and the rape of women suffered by your people on similar scale please.

You can go visit the mass graves of the women, children and old folk they buried alive in mass graves, only then will you realize the scale of hate and venom GCs have towards TCs.

VP....Shah was asked the following by me,

Shah, would you be so good as to post credible evidence on mass killings of defenceless civilians and murders of prisoners of war and the rape of women suffered by your people on similar scale please.

If you have credible evidence of the murders of thousands of your people and the raping of hundreds of women, on the attrocious scale of 74 ..please post the links to the evidence for our consideration.

Don't worry Bill, we have been over this MANY times, all it achieves in this forum is to get labeled as propaganda bullshit.

Because most GC's here are fixed on a mission, the mission to Greekyfie the island with lies and deception, and any evidence that is contrary to their mission is rubbish. (obviously)

The worse part is they hide all this behind democracy and human rights, the gutless bastards...

[bill cobbett]

God these sodiers were must have been real randy or all taking viagra.

Do you want your stupid comment included in that report?

I don't think that document has space for anymore stupid comments

But thanks for posting more poorly documented propaganda material polis, I don't see how that answers my question.

Turkish denials...

Nothing new!

If these so called "documents" lack the facts about the violence imposed on my people, they are nothing but garbage to me.

Shah, would you be so good as to post credible evidence on mass killings of defenceless civilians and murders of prisoners of war and the rape of women suffered by your people on similar scale please.

I'm not going to bother searching for written evidence just to prove something to you that the whole world knows, tell GR to take a look in his propaganda archive, surely he is clever enough to research the accounts of both sides

If you don't think the barbaric actions were not mutual than that's your loss for not really knowing enough about the situation.

Shah, old chap, forgive my persistence but you seem to continue to insist that the barbaric murders of our northern brothers (which I of course condemn) in the tit-for-tat, even-stevens, inter-communal conflict of the late '50's/early '60s is equal in scale to the murders of thousands and the raping of hundreds in that awful Summer of 1974. The latter attrocities supported by the evidence in the OP.

There is little point in participating in debate unless you are willing to take the effort to back up your claims with links to credible evidence.

Shah and VP make the claims, they should put up the links or retract.

[shahmaran]

Bill I have not once made any comments on any of the points you put forward.

I just insisted that the documents they keep putting forward as credible evidence here always lacked any information over the deaths of the TC's.

This is just to point out that some people here always choose to ignore our losses and try to concentrate on theirs while insisting that EVERYTHING is our fault.

When, how, how many, was never commented by me.

On the other hand the killings in 74 were of course much more severe for the GC side since they were fighting a big strong army, this time, yet the mass murders still went on disguised as "self-defence".

Plus none of these points actually cover the oppression the TC's were under since the 60s which was not only violent but social and economical as well...