Get Real! wrote:What is more important to you all?
The alleged threat to our right to free speech or that we end this unnecessary death & destruction the west is causing in various parts of the world?
GB’s decision to stop any further fuel being added to the fire was correct because getting our priorities right can save lives and suffering…
Bill, this one's for you...
"I cried for not having shoes until I saw a man with no legs”
Paphitis, this one's for you...
GROW UP!
Oh dear, I don't want to jump on to what seems to be a growing anti-GR bandwagon but as I'm sure he can look after himself in free debate
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A little more background to this Wilder's ban from GB...He had been invited by a group of GB Lords, to a showing of his film in a room at the Houses of Parliament here in London, following which, the film would be debated. I do not think that this was adding "fuel to the flames". The film has been around for years. The chance of a free debate in which this chap's views could be challenged was denied. I'd like to think that this foul thinking would have been condemned, the man shown to be a fascist basxxrd and sent packing.
I suspect the GB government's motives had little to do with maintaining "public order". I believe the reason for the ban was an appeasement of minority religious sensitivities in many constituencies. There has to be an general election here in GB by the Summer of next year. The party of government needs these votes to have any chance of staying in power. We get on to very dangerous ground when the party of government feels it has to appease the most "sensitive" amongst us.
Now at the risk of being accused of "feelosofising" again, can I try to square freedom of speech with the "deaths of millions" ?....
This is the second para. of the preamble to the UN Declaration of Human Rights.
..."Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people...."
There follows the 30 articles of the Declaration, which together form an excellent aspiration, an aim of intent, towards a world-wide Democratic system and in which the importance of Freedom of Speech is referred to directly in Article 19...
Article 19.
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."
..and FoS further underlies Articles 18, 20 and 21.
( http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html )
So if we believe the very worthy UN Declaration shows us the way to a peaceful world then we must also recognise the importance that it attaches to free expression and the importance FoS plays in reducing conflict.
May I also say this when we post so freely about quanta - the "millions" killed in Iraq, or the "thousands" killed in Afghanistan, the "thousands" killed in the Summer of 74 - What really, really matters is the criminal death of even a single fellow human and if we don't get this then we really have missed the plot.
As to Gr's accusation, somewhere above, that I started a "bollocks thread" - my new sig. refers.
Oh dear I do seem to have jumped on the bandwagon. "Is this wagon going towards a Free Kyrenia please driver. Get on GR, plenty of room."
Thank you for the research (maybe I will look into it 1 day) but take it to another thread and get back on the topic or Fuck off from this thread. 
