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[YFred]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

Sometimes Bayarak partakes in a little too much sucking of his Bayarak if you know what I mean, so please don't get too excited because people will get the wrong idea, if you know what I mean.

Do you mean you would oppose a process in principle and that there should be no process or that you would like the process to be only proposed by the GCs
Explain yourself.
How can you get to the end without at least first proposing a process. Which planet do you live on?

I don't believe in any process that does not believe in full EQUALITY of every citizen...Anything else is just a waste of time.

You will find that most GCs would agree.

So you would like an agreemnet before the agrement. Very good.

[Paphitis]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

Sometimes Bayarak partakes in a little too much sucking of his Bayarak if you know what I mean, so please don't get too excited because people will get the wrong idea, if you know what I mean.

Do you mean you would oppose a process in principle and that there should be no process or that you would like the process to be only proposed by the GCs
Explain yourself.
How can you get to the end without at least first proposing a process. Which planet do you live on?

I don't believe in any process that does not believe in full EQUALITY of every citizen...Anything else is just a waste of time.

You will find that most GCs would agree.

So you would like an agreemnet before the agrement. Very good.

You are making absolutely no sense.

[halil]

Now the talks started ....it is on live transmission Yfred ....tune your sat rx to bayrak ... it is on now .....

[YFred]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

Sometimes Bayarak partakes in a little too much sucking of his Bayarak if you know what I mean, so please don't get too excited because people will get the wrong idea, if you know what I mean.

Do you mean you would oppose a process in principle and that there should be no process or that you would like the process to be only proposed by the GCs
Explain yourself.
How can you get to the end without at least first proposing a process. Which planet do you live on?

I don't believe in any process that does not believe in full EQUALITY of every citizen...Anything else is just a waste of time.

You will find that most GCs would agree.

So you would like an agreemnet before the agrement. Very good.

You are making absolutely no sense.

Who is not making sense?. You are insisting on an agreemnet on equality before the process. It was the negotiating proces who will determine the agreement as well as equality.
You are after domination, dream on.
You will find your idea is in the minority.

[bill cobbett]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

That's an aproaching train mate/matess. You're in the wrong tunnel.

Get out of the tunnel quick!

Time will tell what is at the end of the tunnel. It has taken all this time to get a process on the table.

Now I understand what my dear now deceased father meant when he said "It is on the table".

(May he have found Peace mate)

Mr BillC Senior, my old man, still says that things are up in the air. To which I say that things that are up in the air tend to get blown away and that it's better to build things on some more solid foundations. You know, things like one person/one vote democracies and all that come with that notion, like what you've got in London, England, Fred.

In all honesty, replace the word England with UK or EU and you have something. In UK we had one man one vote for hundreds of years, and just a few years ago, reverted back to what is being proposed in Cyprus. You see we do learn from other peoples mistakes.
We have never had a country called England. The only thing England has is football team.
Now there is a movement to give the same rights to Somerset and Yorkshire! you see its catching.

Often comes as a surprise to learn such things as .....

GB has had universal male suffrage since 1918 and universal female suffrage since 1928, not hundreds of years. In common with many other countries some kind of universal democracy is a pretty recent (re-)invention.

As to the spurious linkage between Parliament in Scotland and the Assembly in Wales (to which I think Fred refers) and CY. It's a matter of devolving to regions with populations of many millions, such matters as health care and education. This isn't a case of building a new state for a few tens of thousands of our northern brothers with far, far more wide-ranging powers on (in the main) stolen lands and the fact remains that GB has a strong, unitary, central, national government.

(The rest of the world and I, are not aware of any agitation let alone plans for home rule for Somerset and Yorkshire but thanks for the humour Fred!)

[halil]

Now the talks started ....it is on live transmission Yfred ....tune your sat rx to bayrak ... it is on now .....

Both leaders are inside the meeting room now ....

The leaders will exchange views on the principles that should guide the discussions on the property issue.

The United Nations Secretary General’s Special Adviser on Cyprus Alexander Downer who arrived in Cyprus this morning, will also attend the meeting between the two leaders.

as Ercakica saying at above looks like UN will step in after all . It will not suprise ...... Diplomatic traffic intensifies in Cyprus.

Following the British Minister for Europe Caroline Flint’s official visit, the EU Commissioner for Enlargement Olli Rehn comes next to hold contacts on the island.

Nami was in Brussels and also traffic between Turkey and northern Cyprus was very bussy this week .

[wallace]

Now the talks started ....it is on live transmission Yfred ....tune your sat rx to bayrak ... it is on now .....

Both leaders are inside the meeting room now ....

The leaders will exchange views on the principles that should guide the discussions on the property issue.

The United Nations Secretary General’s Special Adviser on Cyprus Alexander Downer who arrived in Cyprus this morning, will also attend the meeting between the two leaders.

as Ercakica saying at above looks like UN will step in after all . It will not suprise ...... Diplomatic traffic intensifies in Cyprus.

Following the British Minister for Europe Caroline Flint’s official visit, the EU Commissioner for Enlargement Olli Rehn comes next to hold contacts on the island.

Nami was in Brussels and also traffic between Turkey and northern Cyprus was very bussy this week .

Let them discuss what they like.....My properties, freedom of movement and human rights are not negotiable!!!!! And the UN can kiss my ass too. Let them first get Turkey to respect their own resolutions. What a muppet show

[bill cobbett]

Now the talks started ....it is on live transmission Yfred ....tune your sat rx to bayrak ... it is on now .....

Both leaders are inside the meeting room now ....

The leaders will exchange views on the principles that should guide the discussions on the property issue.

The United Nations Secretary General’s Special Adviser on Cyprus Alexander Downer who arrived in Cyprus this morning, will also attend the meeting between the two leaders.

as Ercakica saying at above looks like UN will step in after all . It will not suprise ...... Diplomatic traffic intensifies in Cyprus.

Following the British Minister for Europe Caroline Flint’s official visit, the EU Commissioner for Enlargement Olli Rehn comes next to hold contacts on the island.

Nami was in Brussels and also traffic between Turkey and northern Cyprus was very bussy this week .

Let them discuss what they like.....My properties, freedom of movement and human rights are not negotiable!!!!! And the UN can kiss my ass too. Let them first get Turkey to respect their own resolutions. What a muppet show

.....and Pres X, just remember the magic word....OXI.

[YFred]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

That's an aproaching train mate/matess. You're in the wrong tunnel.

Get out of the tunnel quick!

Time will tell what is at the end of the tunnel. It has taken all this time to get a process on the table.

Now I understand what my dear now deceased father meant when he said "It is on the table".

(May he have found Peace mate)

Mr BillC Senior, my old man, still says that things are up in the air. To which I say that things that are up in the air tend to get blown away and that it's better to build things on some more solid foundations. You know, things like one person/one vote democracies and all that come with that notion, like what you've got in London, England, Fred.

In all honesty, replace the word England with UK or EU and you have something. In UK we had one man one vote for hundreds of years, and just a few years ago, reverted back to what is being proposed in Cyprus. You see we do learn from other peoples mistakes.
We have never had a country called England. The only thing England has is football team.
Now there is a movement to give the same rights to Somerset and Yorkshire! you see its catching.

Often comes as a surprise to learn such things as .....

GB has had universal male suffrage since 1918 and universal female suffrage since 1928, not hundreds of years. In common with many other countries some kind of universal democracy is a pretty recent (re-)invention.

As to the spurious linkage between Parliament in Scotland and the Assembly in Wales (to which I think Fred refers) and CY. It's a matter of devolving to regions with populations of many millions, such matters as health care and education. This isn't a case of building a new state for a few tens of thousands of our northern brothers with far, far more wide-ranging powers on (in the main) stolen lands and the fact remains that GB has a strong, unitary, central, national government.

(The rest of the world and I, are not aware of any agitation let alone plans for home rule for Somerset and Yorkshire but thanks for the humour Fred!)

I did say one man one vote. I just forgot to mention that it was only the land owners that were allowed. Sorry. My mistake.

[bill cobbett]

Good news Halil. Light at the end of the tunnel. At leat the process is defined if not the timetable.

That's an aproaching train mate/matess. You're in the wrong tunnel.

Get out of the tunnel quick!

Time will tell what is at the end of the tunnel. It has taken all this time to get a process on the table.

Now I understand what my dear now deceased father meant when he said "It is on the table".

(May he have found Peace mate)

Mr BillC Senior, my old man, still says that things are up in the air. To which I say that things that are up in the air tend to get blown away and that it's better to build things on some more solid foundations. You know, things like one person/one vote democracies and all that come with that notion, like what you've got in London, England, Fred.

In all honesty, replace the word England with UK or EU and you have something. In UK we had one man one vote for hundreds of years, and just a few years ago, reverted back to what is being proposed in Cyprus. You see we do learn from other peoples mistakes.
We have never had a country called England. The only thing England has is football team.
Now there is a movement to give the same rights to Somerset and Yorkshire! you see its catching.

Often comes as a surprise to learn such things as .....

GB has had universal male suffrage since 1918 and universal female suffrage since 1928, not hundreds of years. In common with many other countries some kind of universal democracy is a pretty recent (re-)invention.

As to the spurious linkage between Parliament in Scotland and the Assembly in Wales (to which I think Fred refers) and CY. It's a matter of devolving to regions with populations of many millions, such matters as health care and education. This isn't a case of building a new state for a few tens of thousands of our northern brothers with far, far more wide-ranging powers on (in the main) stolen lands and the fact remains that GB has a strong, unitary, central, national government.

(The rest of the world and I, are not aware of any agitation let alone plans for home rule for Somerset and Yorkshire but thanks for the humour Fred!)

I did say one man one vote. I just forgot to mention that it was only the land owners that were allowed. Sorry. My mistake.

Don't forget the potwallopers Fred.

(One of my favourite words in the English language)