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[Byron]

but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason

If the TURKS are allowed to keep 40K troops in Cyprus we should match them with 300K and then let's see if they would like it .

What bullocks !! Where will you get 300 k troops from mate ?

Since when have I been your mate ?

I think you mean't bollocks ?

[miltiades]

but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason

If the TURKS are allowed to keep 40K troops in Cyprus we should match them with 300K and then let's see if they would like it .

What bullocks !! Where will you get 300 k troops from mate ?

Since when have I been your mate ?

I think you mean't bollocks ?

Friends like you Cyprus needs no enemies mate !
I ellada pote then petheni mono ligo kero malakizete !!

[Kikapu]

No my deluded GC neighbour its time for a reality check the labels and legality high horse you ride will not take you any further than the current status quo you admantly continue to support today. For it is your mindeset and lack of understanding that will guarantee you will never see Lapta in a united Cyprus in your life time.

Reality check questions..

1) Is the island physcially divided?

2) Do GCs have any control over the TRNC?

3) Do you show your passport as you cross into the TRNC just like any other foreign country?

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

5) Do you face a diminishing TC population in the north who does not really give a shit about unification with GCs they have no common history with?

Thats why you are deluded if the above realities did not exsist you would have exerted your control over the whole island and not wasted your time negotiating a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Why do you have a problem sharing as its you that demands this but you want to share on your terms and not equally.

I do not want bad things for GCs as I support right to return where physically possible, departure of both Turkish soldiers and settlers as these are your concerns and demands. What do you see fit for TCs, how will address opur concerns? Our demands are what we see as the remedy to give us the confidence to take that step forward.

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

Take away the above, and the rest of your list is totally meaningless, which means, the "trnc" is only there as a result of the above. What will you do when the above equation is no longer there, just because they may have a bigger piority than the TC's, i.e., the EU. If you were able to maintain all other positions that you have listed above without Number 4, then you have a reason to crow on the bravado you are demonstrating with your past few posts on this thread. It is a common practice (and a mistake) to talk big when hiding behind others. The question is, how big will you be able to talk, when you have no one to hide behind anymore.? History tells us, that nothing lasts forever. It is worth bearing that in mind, that, don't talk tough today if you are not able to back that toughness tomorrow.! Again, just remember, that the GC's are going to be in Cyprus for ever along with you, the TC's, but the Turkish troops won't be. Sooner or later, they will leave, so cut the "little man talking bravado" for the sake of a peaceful future, because your neighbour knows where you live and will also remember your illegitimate toughness.!

[Kifeas]

No my deluded GC neighbour its time for a reality check the labels and legality high horse you ride will not take you any further than the current status quo you admantly continue to support today. For it is your mindeset and lack of understanding that will guarantee you will never see Lapta in a united Cyprus in your life time.

Reality check questions..

1) Is the island physcially divided?

2) Do GCs have any control over the TRNC?

3) Do you show your passport as you cross into the TRNC just like any other foreign country?

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

5) Do you face a diminishing TC population in the north who does not really give a shit about unification with GCs they have no common history with?

Thats why you are deluded if the above realities did not exsist you would have exerted your control over the whole island and not wasted your time negotiating a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Why do you have a problem sharing as its you that demands this but you want to share on your terms and not equally.

I do not want bad things for GCs as I support right to return where physically possible, departure of both Turkish soldiers and settlers as these are your concerns and demands. What do you see fit for TCs, how will address opur concerns? Our demands are what we see as the remedy to give us the confidence to take that step forward.

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

Take away the above, and the rest of your list is totally meaningless, which means, the "trnc" is only there as a result of the above. What will you do when the above equation is no longer there, just because they may have a bigger piority than the TC's, i.e., the EU. If you were able to maintain all other positions that you have listed above without Number 4, then you have a reason to crow on the bravado you are demonstrating with your past few posts on this thread. It is a common practice (and a mistake) to talk big when hiding behind others. The question is, how big will you be able to talk, when you have no one to hide behind anymore.? History tells us, that nothing lasts forever. It is worth bearing that in mind, that, don't talk tough today if you are not able to back that toughness tomorrow.! Again, just remember, that the GC's are going to be in Cyprus for ever along with you, the TC's, but the Turkish troops won't be. Sooner or later, they will leave, so cut the "little man talking bravado" for the sake of a peaceful future, because your neighbour knows where you live and will also remember your illegitimate toughness.!

Other than that, VP claims that the north is not illegally occupied by Turkey, as if the mentioned 40,000 troops are not foreign soldiers, but that we are "divided" into two separate nations instead, although 80% of the indigenous citizens have been ethnically cleansed from the occupied areas.

[Viewpoint]

No my deluded GC neighbour its time for a reality check the labels and legality high horse you ride will not take you any further than the current status quo you admantly continue to support today. For it is your mindeset and lack of understanding that will guarantee you will never see Lapta in a united Cyprus in your life time.

Reality check questions..

1) Is the island physcially divided?

2) Do GCs have any control over the TRNC?

3) Do you show your passport as you cross into the TRNC just like any other foreign country?

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

5) Do you face a diminishing TC population in the north who does not really give a shit about unification with GCs they have no common history with?

Thats why you are deluded if the above realities did not exsist you would have exerted your control over the whole island and not wasted your time negotiating a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Why do you have a problem sharing as its you that demands this but you want to share on your terms and not equally.

I do not want bad things for GCs as I support right to return where physically possible, departure of both Turkish soldiers and settlers as these are your concerns and demands. What do you see fit for TCs, how will address opur concerns? Our demands are what we see as the remedy to give us the confidence to take that step forward.

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

Take away the above, and the rest of your list is totally meaningless, which means, the "trnc" is only there as a result of the above. What will you do when the above equation is no longer there, just because they may have a bigger piority than the TC's, i.e., the EU. If you were able to maintain all other positions that you have listed above without Number 4, then you have a reason to crow on the bravado you are demonstrating with your past few posts on this thread. It is a common practice (and a mistake) to talk big when hiding behind others. The question is, how big will you be able to talk, when you have no one to hide behind anymore.? History tells us, that nothing lasts forever. It is worth bearing that in mind, that, don't talk tough today if you are not able to back that toughness tomorrow.! Again, just remember, that the GC's are going to be in Cyprus for ever along with you, the TC's, but the Turkish troops won't be. Sooner or later, they will leave, so cut the "little man talking bravado" for the sake of a peaceful future, because your neighbour knows where you live and will also remember your illegitimate toughness.!

Other than that, VP claims that the north is not illegally occupied by Turkey, as if the mentioned 40,000 troops are not foreign soldiers, but that we are "divided" into two separate nations instead, although 80% of the indigenous citizens have been ethnically cleansed from the occupied areas.

You are avoiding answering my question do you face the above realities when trying to solve the Cyprus problem??

[Viewpoint]

No my deluded GC neighbour its time for a reality check the labels and legality high horse you ride will not take you any further than the current status quo you admantly continue to support today. For it is your mindeset and lack of understanding that will guarantee you will never see Lapta in a united Cyprus in your life time.

Reality check questions..

1) Is the island physcially divided?

2) Do GCs have any control over the TRNC?

3) Do you show your passport as you cross into the TRNC just like any other foreign country?

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

5) Do you face a diminishing TC population in the north who does not really give a shit about unification with GCs they have no common history with?

Thats why you are deluded if the above realities did not exsist you would have exerted your control over the whole island and not wasted your time negotiating a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Why do you have a problem sharing as its you that demands this but you want to share on your terms and not equally.

I do not want bad things for GCs as I support right to return where physically possible, departure of both Turkish soldiers and settlers as these are your concerns and demands. What do you see fit for TCs, how will address opur concerns? Our demands are what we see as the remedy to give us the confidence to take that step forward.

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

Take away the above, and the rest of your list is totally meaningless, which means, the "trnc" is only there as a result of the above. What will you do when the above equation is no longer there, just because they may have a bigger piority than the TC's, i.e., the EU. If you were able to maintain all other positions that you have listed above without Number 4, then you have a reason to crow on the bravado you are demonstrating with your past few posts on this thread. It is a common practice (and a mistake) to talk big when hiding behind others. The question is, how big will you be able to talk, when you have no one to hide behind anymore.? History tells us, that nothing lasts forever. It is worth bearing that in mind, that, don't talk tough today if you are not able to back that toughness tomorrow.! Again, just remember, that the GC's are going to be in Cyprus for ever along with you, the TC's, but the Turkish troops won't be. Sooner or later, they will leave, so cut the "little man talking bravado" for the sake of a peaceful future, because your neighbour knows where you live and will also remember your illegitimate toughness.!

So we should be thankful for the above "4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders" and ensure they stay well in place, your logic tells us that without them the rest would be wiped away by the GCs within a matter of weeks. Its the Turkish army that keeps the GCs from taking control of the whole island allowing them the opportunity to exploit and discriminate against TCs. Your comments only make us feel we are right for wanting the Turkish army to stay until a solution is found and not before.

Your empty threats do not mean anything as my protector appears to be doing his job and any future plan will incorporate safeguards to guarantee the same impact and effect on our vengence seeking neighbour who will not be able to harm or discriminate against TC people ever again.

Kikapu you should try advising GCs of the TC viewpoint as you always claim to know all, why not inlighten with your knowledge as to how threats and pressure will not get them anywhere the last 49 years is testiment to this fact.

[Byron]

but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason

If the TURKS are allowed to keep 40K troops in Cyprus we should match them with 300K and then let's see if they would like it .

What bullocks !! Where will you get 300 k troops from mate ?

Since when have I been your mate ?

I think you mean't bollocks ?

Friends like you Cyprus needs no enemies mate !
I ellada pote then petheni mono ligo kero malakizete !!

?????? ????????????

[yialousa1971]

but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason

If the TURKS are allowed to keep 40K troops in Cyprus we should match them with 300K and then let's see if they would like it .

What bullocks !! Where will you get 300 k troops from mate ?

Since when have I been your mate ?

I think you mean't bollocks ?

Friends like you Cyprus needs no enemies mate !
I ellada pote then petheni mono ligo kero malakizete !!

?????? ????????????

Ignore Miltiades, he's the forum fool.

[repulsewarrior]

...if it was a "Legal Occupation" the island would not be divided, there would be no refugees, the Republic would exist as the State island wide with Turkish troops refusing to leave as a Guarantor defending it until any risk to its sovereignty is eliminated.

[insan]

...if it was a "Legal Occupation" the island would not be divided, there would be no refugees, the Republic would exist as the State island wide with Turkish troops refusing to leave as a Guarantor defending it until any risk to its sovereignty is eliminated.

RW, r u sure this was possible under the then circumstances? In 1974, Enosists of Cyprus backed by Greek Junta overthrew Makarios with a coup and were in a warfare with GC left(resistance fighters). Even after the second phase of Turkish intervention, the irregulars of EOKA-B still insisting not to stop their illegal actions. Moreover, neither the new government of Greece nor the then government and security forces of the "RoC" could stop/arrest those EOKA-B irregulars till Makarios granted an amnesty for them, in 1976.

What would have happened, had Turkey continued with a 3rd phase of intervention in order to ward off those EOKA-B irregulars still wandering around fearlessly and massacreing TCs in some villages? More bloodshed from both sides? So wasn't it better to first secure the lives of TCs and GCs by displacing them to 2 different areas of island? The Brits very well knew every secret place of Cyprus during the EOKA days, could they manage to finish EOKA? How long the guerilla warfare lasted between British Forces and EOKA? How many lives it costed? Had Turkey not displaced the population of 2 communities; there would have been way too much bloodshed for many years while Turkish troops skirmishing with EOKA-B guerillas. Was that what u wanted?