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Postby CopperLine » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:49 pm

CBBB wrote:February 12, 2009

The Committee on Foreign Affairs of the European Parliament has urged Turkey to facilitate a suitable climate for the ongoing peace talks in Cyprus by withdrawing its military forces from the island and by allowing the two community leaders to negotiate freely their country's future.

The Committee expressed regret that Turkey has not met its obligations relating to the Additional Protocol, and warned Ankara that non compliance with its commitments by December 2009 may affect even more negatively its negotiations for accession to the EU.

The Committee adopted on Wednesday a draft progress report on Turkey’s accession course, by a large majority (65 in favor, 4 against). The report is expected to be submitted for approval by the plenary next month.

In the report, the committee “regrets that the EC-Turkey Association Agreement and the Additional Protocol thereto have not yet been implemented fully by the Turkish government; recalls that the non-fulfillment of Turkey's commitments by December 2009 may further seriously affect the process of negotiations.”

At the same time, it “invites the Council to continue to follow up and review progress made on the issues covered by the declaration of the Community and its Member States of 21 September 2005 in accordance with its conclusions of 11 December 2006”.

The Committee on Foreign Affairs of the European Parliament “stresses the need for a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus question based on UN Security Council resolutions and on the principles on which the European Union is founded”.

It also “welcomes the renewed commitment of both political leaders on both sides to a negotiated solution and supports the ongoing direct negotiations by the leaders of the two communities in Cyprus and will accept any agreement reached by them provided that it is in conformity with the principles on which the EU is founded, including the four fundamental freedoms, and that it is accepted after a referendum”.

The report “calls on Turkey to facilitate a suitable climate for negotiations by withdrawing Turkish forces and allowing the two leaders to negotiate freely their country's future”.

President of the Republic Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat have been engaged in direct talks since September last year with a view to find a settlement to the problem of Cyprus divided since 1974, when Turkish troops invaded and occupied its northern third.

Turkey has not met its obligations to the EU member states, including Cyprus and it has refused to open its ports and airports to Cypriot flagged vessels and aircraft. Ankara does not recognise the Republic of Cyprus.

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Broadly a good idea. For what it is worth a staged withdrawal of troops over let's say eighteen months or two years, not linked to negotiations, would be a huge confidence building measure. Assuming there are c. 40,000 - that's the most often quoted figure, though I don't know how reliable or accurate it is or on what basis it is given - a monthly reduction of 2,000 would be the way to go. Starting with the non-deployment of the next round of Turkish conscripts might be the first step to take. This is of no real political cost to Turkey, no real diminution of security to TRNC, but with major diplomatic gains.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:41 pm

Indeed it would be a tremendous sign of good will on the part of Turkey . Reciprocal action from the RoC in dropping the Greek national anthem would be wise too.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:21 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Kifeas you over estimate the TCs dissapearing angle as TCs prefer thıs to lıvıng ın a GC state wıth majorıty rule as they do not want to put there future solely ın the hands of the GCs. The structure has to incorporate BBF with politcial equality of the 2 founding states. The "RoC" and TRNC will be cancelled and a new United Cyprus Republic will come about, this seems to be whats brewing right now so you better get used to the idea but of course feel free to reject it yet again.


There can be no two "founding" states in any one agreement, VP! This is only a fantasy of yours, and nothing else! There is only one state, the RoC, which will evolve into a federal state, from a unitary one, and will encompass two federative component states. The sooner you digest this reality, the better for you. This is the only legal fact, and there is no possibility in a million that you will ever get the GCs to deviate from this, more so now that we have established the RoC as an EU member state, and have a veto card against Turkey too. Stop fooling yourselves and wasting your times with impossible notions and missions! The GCs are not so stupid to ever allow you the illegitimate claim that you constitute a separate people with a separate territory in half of Cyprus, as a separate nation, and there is no one on this planet that is willing or ever will be to align with such an irredentist ambition of yours! You had a small chance before 2004, but it has gone down the drain now! Stop wasting yours and our time with nonsense that only harms you and Turkey in its EU ambitions!


You conveniently forget that we are divided and that the world does not revolve around the needs and desires of GCs, we have seen far more extreme situations become acceptable and forced in the name of peace. You need to get off your high horse and realize that the leaders are negotiating a 2 state solution under a federal system, the "RoC" and TRNC will become history and a New United Cyprus Republic will appear with a new consititution ot the "RoC" constitution which you tried to change but a new constitution signed in front of the EU you lay so much trust in, so renagging which is a GC trait will not be tollerated and you can kiss the TC state goodbye forever, the rumours are that the basis is more along the lines of Serbia Montemegro than evolving the already defuncted "RoC" consititution due to ommission of the TC community and setting up a constitution that leaves the door wide open to majority domination and objection in the EU therefore conflict. The structure also has to work as a derrant for any future battle for total power, that is why 2 founding states are being discussed and wasnt it announced by no one other than your democratically voted leader Christofiyas?? You need a shock of reality and what you have to deal with not what you think is right and what you desire is best for the GC community. BBF with politcal equality of the 2 states is what you will have to deal with better start getting used to it as your leaders are gearing up to allow your time to consume the reality of a solution. But hey feel free to reject the end product.


No VP, we are not divided, more so in a legal and legitimate sense. What exists is an illegal occupation of 37% of Cyprus by Turkey, which performed an ethnic cleansing and usurpation of the homes and properties of the indigenous Greek Cypriot population of the occupied areas, and colonized it with its own people from Turkey. That is all that exists, and that is only what the world sees and understands. You simply choose to collaborate with an illegal occupant country, under a stillborn regime and status.

As for the RoC going to become "history" upon a solution, only a stupidity such as yours would have imagined something like this. A UN and EU member state that has signed such an important treaty, as that of its accession with the EU and each of all its member states separately, cannot possibly become "history," before the EU, the UN and the planet itself become history! Your theories can only apply in a science fiction movie, and not in the real world!


No my deluded GC neighbour its time for a reality check the labels and legality high horse you ride will not take you any further than the current status quo you admantly continue to support today. For it is your mindeset and lack of understanding that will guarantee you will never see Lapta in a united Cyprus in your life time.

Reality check questions..

1) Is the island physcially divided?

2) Do GCs have any control over the TRNC?

3) Do you show your passport as you cross into the TRNC just like any other foreign country?

4) Do you face 40.000 Turkish soliders?

5) Do you face a diminishing TC population in the north who does not really give a shit about unification with GCs they have no common history with?

Thats why you are deluded if the above realities did not exsist you would have exerted your control over the whole island and not wasted your time negotiating a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

Why do you have a problem sharing as its you that demands this but you want to share on your terms and not equally.

I do not want bad things for GCs as I support right to return where physically possible, departure of both Turkish soldiers and settlers as these are your concerns and demands. What do you see fit for TCs, how will address opur concerns? Our demands are what we see as the remedy to give us the confidence to take that step forward.
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Postby Byron » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:28 pm

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YFred wrote:When will you all realise that troops will go after the agreement. If GCs delay the agreement to cause problems for Turkey in EU, the EU being the gutless organisation that it is, it will simply extend the time period. Deadlines come and go.

Turkey has up to 10 years comply.

I am certain that this will be resolved one way or another in that time period. You are wasting your time.


What is the reason for TURKEY to keep 40.000 troops in Cyprus ?


Because TCs don't have equal number of TC NG and TC reserves as GC NG has. This is the main reason.



Thanks for posting a pathetic reply !!!
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Postby Byron » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:32 pm

miltiades wrote:Indeed it would be a tremendous sign of good will on the part of Turkey . Reciprocal action from the RoC in dropping the Greek national anthem would be wise too.


No living Greek will ever ever agree to drop the "Hymn to Freedom " - dont even consider it , it will never be accepted .
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Postby insan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:39 pm

Byron wrote:
insan wrote:
Byron wrote:
Jerry wrote:
YFred wrote:When will you all realise that troops will go after the agreement. If GCs delay the agreement to cause problems for Turkey in EU, the EU being the gutless organisation that it is, it will simply extend the time period. Deadlines come and go.

Turkey has up to 10 years comply.

I am certain that this will be resolved one way or another in that time period. You are wasting your time.


What is the reason for TURKEY to keep 40.000 troops in Cyprus ?


Because TCs don't have equal number of TC NG and TC reserves as GC NG has. This is the main reason.



Thanks for posting a pathetic reply !!!


Pathetic is u and ur alikes that don't like to hear truths. :lol:
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:42 pm

but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason
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Postby Byron » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:44 pm

insan wrote:
Byron wrote:
insan wrote:
Byron wrote:
Jerry wrote:
YFred wrote:When will you all realise that troops will go after the agreement. If GCs delay the agreement to cause problems for Turkey in EU, the EU being the gutless organisation that it is, it will simply extend the time period. Deadlines come and go.

Turkey has up to 10 years comply.

I am certain that this will be resolved one way or another in that time period. You are wasting your time.


What is the reason for TURKEY to keep 40.000 troops in Cyprus ?


Because TCs don't have equal number of TC NG and TC reserves as GC NG has. This is the main reason.



Thanks for posting a pathetic reply !!!


Pathetic is u and ur alikes that don't like to hear truths. :lol:


So this is what you call truth, just like your truth on the Armenian Genocide !
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Postby insan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:44 pm

paliometoxo wrote:but its no real reason to need 40 k troops in cyprus, this is not a reason


What is the real reason, in ur opinion? They r preparing themselves to butcher all GCs in Cyprus? :lol:
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Postby insan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:45 pm

Byron wrote:
insan wrote:
Byron wrote:
insan wrote:
Byron wrote:
Jerry wrote:
YFred wrote:When will you all realise that troops will go after the agreement. If GCs delay the agreement to cause problems for Turkey in EU, the EU being the gutless organisation that it is, it will simply extend the time period. Deadlines come and go.

Turkey has up to 10 years comply.

I am certain that this will be resolved one way or another in that time period. You are wasting your time.


What is the reason for TURKEY to keep 40.000 troops in Cyprus ?


Because TCs don't have equal number of TC NG and TC reserves as GC NG has. This is the main reason.



Thanks for posting a pathetic reply !!!


Pathetic is u and ur alikes that don't like to hear truths. :lol:


So this is what you call truth, just like your truth on the Armenian Genocide !


Don't confuse yourself with truths and allegations. :lol:
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