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Postby utu » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:57 am

Oracle wrote:Don't exaggerate! ... a mere few hundred years on Cyprus ... and you are gonners 8)


With your descendents leading the way to make goners out of those TC descendents, right? Your nihlism is quite worrying, Oracle.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:08 am

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:The Romans invaded Britain and were there for just over 400 years.

No one would have thought that trouble back home would have sent them scurrying so fast, leaving Britain once again to the Celts.

Turkey is not omnipotent, and its time has come too ...

It has to return "home" :lol:


Yup its true never say never, but 1000 years of rulings of all sorts, I say don't hold your breath ;)

Or maybe do :twisted:


Don't exaggerate! ... a mere few hundred years on Cyprus ... and you are gonners 8)


A few more hundred years and you'll all be speaking Turkish :lol:

As they say in Turkish, "you get in bed with a blind person and you'll wake up cross-eyed" :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:13 am

utu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Don't exaggerate! ... a mere few hundred years on Cyprus ... and you are gonners 8)


With your descendents leading the way to make goners out of those TC descendents, right? Your nihlism is quite worrying, Oracle.

Since when is nihilism the act of wanting Turks to disappear? :lol:

Careful how you use that beautiful word utu...
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Postby utu » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:20 am

Get Real! wrote:Since when is nihilism the act of wanting Turks to disappear? :lol:

Careful how you use that beautiful word utu...


To be honest, GR, I am finding that her comments really show an unmitigated hatred against all things Turkish. Hatreds lead to rather nasty things, you know...
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:28 am

utu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Since when is nihilism the act of wanting Turks to disappear? :lol:

Careful how you use that beautiful word utu...


To be honest, GR, I am finding that her comments really show an unmitigated hatred against all things Turkish. Hatreds lead to rather nasty things, you know...

We all earn what others think of us utu, Turkey included and all those that choose to associate with her.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:45 am

english is the language we can all "fear" the most. if the impasse continues then the north will be overwhelmed by Turkey. it will remain a small backwater for the overwhelming population of the mainland, and to survive it will have to move beyond this subjugation by adapting to the needs of other interlocutors. the south will continue to grow with an eye toward the progress that its membership into the EU offers. thus, no part of this island will be a reserve of Cypriot thinking; our identity will be erased as this islands dwellers. rather we will become part of larger masses with an ease in our mobility within them, easily assimilated.

in Turkey, the Turkish governments to follow may expect some success from their resistance to change, but in the long run the stagnation it causes to the revolution which Ataturk started will be their downfall. the changes which this great leader founded with the creation of this State are not the exclusive domain of "Turks" as the Kemalists believe, and no one can deny that unless an attempt is made to bring a multicultural nature to its politics they will fail as well. Like Cyprus, Turkey is not a mono-clonal society. the realisation of this element in their identity and an effort to embrace the changes which the world presents will, for them, secure the stability which both of these counties crave.

to defend ourselves, as Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots, "Greek" or "Turk", (Grecophone / Turcophone) it is important for us to cooperate, and to approach our task of Unity as Individuals ...and as Persons, that is to say Bicommunally: many Communities within a single State.

cantons, enclaves, call them what you want allows for diversity within these individual Communities, which will only help to sustain their vitality by providing for the competing forces a successful society needs to enrich itself. as people, as equals, as a whole, we can share the pleasure of free movement, free association, and the freedom to express ourselves without limiting our humanity, and without the need to remain adversaries that are artificially divided.
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