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[RichardB]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

[insan]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

We name it as cooperation and colloboration, as Hellenes have done on Cyprus-Greece axis.

[Piratis]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

We name it as cooperation and colloboration, as Hellenes have done on Cyprus-Greece axis.

The big difference is that Greece supports the decisions of the Cyprus government, while on the other hand Turkey is the one which decides the policies of the Turkish side, and the pseudo government in the occupied areas are just their puppets.

[insan]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

We name it as cooperation and colloboration, as Hellenes have done on Cyprus-Greece axis.

The big difference is that Greece supports the decisions of the Cyprus government, while on the other hand Turkey is the one which decides the policies of the Turkish side, and the pseudo government in the occupied areas are just their puppets.

Cooperation and colloboration means that decisions taken by consociationally. Even, there had been times that TC leadership even didn't do what suggested by the Prime Ministers of Turkey.

[RichardB]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

We name it as cooperation and colloboration, as Hellenes have done on Cyprus-Greece axis.

The big difference is that Greece supports the decisions of the Cyprus government, while on the other hand Turkey is the one which decides the policies of the Turkish side, and the pseudo government in the occupied areas are just their puppets.

Cooperation and colloboration means that decisions taken by consociationally. Even, there had been times that TC leadership even didn't do what suggested by the Prime Ministers of Turkey.

I dont think even the most vociferous of TCs would argue that without the financial aid from turkry the 'trnc' would be able to survive whereas the ROC has proved that it cannot only survive but also prosperas a stand alone nation.So please forgive me if I say i find it hard to believe that the talat leadership is anything but a puppet of turkey doing Turkeys bidding

[insan]

YFred wrote

Yes and No.

There is very few MPs who are from Turkey. So Talats word does count.

But is Talat not just the mouthpiece for Turkey?

We name it as cooperation and colloboration, as Hellenes have done on Cyprus-Greece axis.

The big difference is that Greece supports the decisions of the Cyprus government, while on the other hand Turkey is the one which decides the policies of the Turkish side, and the pseudo government in the occupied areas are just their puppets.

Cooperation and colloboration means that decisions taken by consociationally. Even, there had been times that TC leadership even didn't do what suggested by the Prime Ministers of Turkey.

I dont think even the most vociferous of TCs would argue that without the financial aid from turkry the 'trnc' would be able to survive whereas the ROC has proved that it cannot only survive but also prosperas a stand alone nation.So please forgive me if I say i find it hard to believe that the talat leadership is anything but a puppet of turkey doing Turkeys bidding

No problem RichardB, from a factual view point u could easily see that it's impossible to survive without recognition at least as a TC government if not possible as TRNC. In this case of course TCs need financial support from Turkey but this has never meant "I give ur cash so that I'm the boss u r the puppet." TRNC politicians have limited contact with international institutions, governments, politicians etc due to being unrecognized. In this case, it is again factual for Turkey to represent TCs at those international areas...

[Paphitis]

What Greek Cypriots do not understand is simple contract law. When 4 people sign the contract, the only way to remove it is if all four agree with removing it.

Engine has been switched off and the ignition is with Turkey. How much simpler do we have to put it so even the Hellens can understand.

Just like UN. Once you pass some resolution no matter how wrong, Unless all 5 members agree, nothing can be done.
Sooner or later the UN is on route to the demise of the League of Nations. I hope its sooner.

Graduates of the “university of life” must learn to keep their mouths shut unless they enjoy making complete dorks of themselves…

ATTILA 74: Turkish invasion or intervention?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20395.html

Is the 1959 "Treaty of Guarantee" valid?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21279.html

You are so stupid. You just don't get it. There is only and only 2 ways to break that treaty.

1. TURKEY AND THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS AGREE
2. at the end of the barell of a gun.

Which one do you prefer.

We don't need any agreement from TCs or Turkey as the Treaty of Guarantee is:
1) null and void as Turkey has breached ALL treaty obligations, and
2) Treaties of Guarantee are deemed by the UN Charter as illegal by nature.

Since the Turkish Cypriots will never agree and will continue their unfair claims to the detriment of the indigenous Cypriots who they ethnically cleansed from their lands, then it will eventually become apparent to all GCs that their justice and dignity will only come from the end of the gun barrel.

All we will do for know is wait, as the future war draws nearer and nearer with time... If you think 63-67 was bad, you have no idea what immense danger and vulnerability the TCs are subjecting themselves to.

You will be back into your Kokkina Enclave in no time, and this time Turkey will not be able to do a thing about it if it wants EU accession.

[insan]

What Greek Cypriots do not understand is simple contract law. When 4 people sign the contract, the only way to remove it is if all four agree with removing it.

Engine has been switched off and the ignition is with Turkey. How much simpler do we have to put it so even the Hellens can understand.

Just like UN. Once you pass some resolution no matter how wrong, Unless all 5 members agree, nothing can be done.
Sooner or later the UN is on route to the demise of the League of Nations. I hope its sooner.

Graduates of the “university of life” must learn to keep their mouths shut unless they enjoy making complete dorks of themselves…

ATTILA 74: Turkish invasion or intervention?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20395.html

Is the 1959 "Treaty of Guarantee" valid?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21279.html

You are so stupid. You just don't get it. There is only and only 2 ways to break that treaty.

1. TURKEY AND THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS AGREE
2. at the end of the barell of a gun.

Which one do you prefer.

We don't need any agreement from TCs or Turkey as the Treaty of Guarantee is:
1) null and void as Turkey has breached ALL treaty obligations, and
2) Treaties of Guarantee are deemed by the UN Chamber as illegal by nature.

Since the Turkish Cypriots will never agree and will continue their unfair claims to the detriment of the indigenous Cypriots who they ethnically cleansed from their lands, then it will eventually become apparent to all GCs that their justice and dignity will only come from the end of the gun barrel.

All we will do for know is wait, as the future war draws nearer and nearer with time... If you think 63-67 was bad, you have no idea what immense danger and vulnerability the TCs are subjecting themselves to.

You will be back into your Kokkina Enclave in no time, and this time Turkey will not be able to do a thing about it if it wants EU accession.

Wow ow wo ow wowwwww! That's what i call living in a fantasy world.

[Paphitis]

What Greek Cypriots do not understand is simple contract law. When 4 people sign the contract, the only way to remove it is if all four agree with removing it.

Engine has been switched off and the ignition is with Turkey. How much simpler do we have to put it so even the Hellens can understand.

Just like UN. Once you pass some resolution no matter how wrong, Unless all 5 members agree, nothing can be done.
Sooner or later the UN is on route to the demise of the League of Nations. I hope its sooner.

Graduates of the “university of life” must learn to keep their mouths shut unless they enjoy making complete dorks of themselves…

ATTILA 74: Turkish invasion or intervention?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus20395.html

Is the 1959 "Treaty of Guarantee" valid?
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21279.html

You are so stupid. You just don't get it. There is only and only 2 ways to break that treaty.

1. TURKEY AND THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS AGREE
2. at the end of the barell of a gun.

Which one do you prefer.

We don't need any agreement from TCs or Turkey as the Treaty of Guarantee is:
1) null and void as Turkey has breached ALL treaty obligations, and
2) Treaties of Guarantee are deemed by the UN Chamber as illegal by nature.

Since the Turkish Cypriots will never agree and will continue their unfair claims to the detriment of the indigenous Cypriots who they ethnically cleansed from their lands, then it will eventually become apparent to all GCs that their justice and dignity will only come from the end of the gun barrel.

All we will do for know is wait, as the future war draws nearer and nearer with time... If you think 63-67 was bad, you have no idea what immense danger and vulnerability the TCs are subjecting themselves to.

You will be back into your Kokkina Enclave in no time, and this time Turkey will not be able to do a thing about it if it wants EU accession.

Wow ow wo ow wowwwww! That's what i call living in a fantasy world.

Fantasy world eh?

Those that are in a fantasy world are those that expect the GCs to accept a permanent Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey and a Constipational Democracy...

[RichardB]

RichardB wrote

I dont think even the most vociferous of TCs would argue that without the financial aid from turkry the 'trnc' would be able to survive whereas the ROC has proved that it cannot only survive but also prosperas a stand alone nation.So please forgive me if I say i find it hard to believe that the talat leadership is anything but a puppet of turkey doing Turkeys bidding

Insan replied

No problem RichardB, from a factual view point u could easily see that it's impossible to survive without recognition at least as a TC government if not possible as TRNC. In this case of course TCs need financial support from Turkey but this has never meant "I give ur cash so that I'm the boss u r the puppet." TRNC politicians have limited contact with international institutions, governments, politicians etc due to being unrecognized. In this case, it is again factual for Turkey to represent TCs at those international areas...

So I was right then? A 'state' governed by Turkey with only Turkish representation without a care for what the ordinary TC in the street wants being used by the Turkish government to place all the persons it does not want in Turkey therefore changing the demographics of an area without a cuss for internationallaw

Many thanks for the clarification