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I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but...

Postby insan » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:13 am

"The truth about Cyprus" is the truth!
By Rachel Salomon January 7, 2007

http://web.israelinsider.com/views/10258.htm

Sampson wanted the Turkish Cypriots to be annihilated with all possible speed. These facts are confirmed by Nicos Sampson himself, who stated in the Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia on February 26, 1981 that "Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Given these facts, who are the true victims of genocide?


Can someone, Greek or GC verify whether Sampson made such a statement or not?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:10 am

I think she has been discredited as a paid propagandist (although she moaned she was not paid as much as others), and an outright liar and distorter of truths, on many occasions. If you get your information from her insan, it explains why you are so easily ridiculed for falsifying information, by people like Piratis and others.

Here is an analysis of some of her lies ....

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ ... -1579.html
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:22 am

Oracle wrote:
I think she has been discredited as a paid propagandist (although she moaned she was not paid as much as others), and an outright liar and distorter of truths, on many occasions.


The "Truth" about Cyprus is a lie.

The article "The truth about Cyprus" by Rachel Salomon is a complete pack of unsubstantiated lies and Turkish hate-filled propaganda that the gullible Salomon who, as she has admitted, is working for the Turkish government, has fallen for hook, line and sinker.

In paragraph two Salomon falsely claims that the British allowed Greeks to settle in Cyprus in 1879. This is a lie since Cyprus has been a Greek island for over 3,500 since Mycenaean times and Greeks have always lived on the island continuously until the present day. Up until 1879 only 5% of the population of the island was Turkish speaking and the rest were Greeks. This Turkish speaking population was mainly the result of forced conversions of the island's Latin communities to Islam. From the time when they took control of the island in 1879, the British, in order to implement a policy of divide and conquer, imported thousands of mainland Turks to work for them and this brought the Turkish speaking population up to 18%. There was never a Turkish quarter of Nicosia for any Greeks to march through. What is now the Turkish quarter of Nicosia is what was originally the Armenian quarter until Turkish terrorists ethnically cleansed the Armenians and occupied their homes in the early 1960's.

Greek patriotic songs were not about slaughter but about freedom from brutal Turkish oppression. Christians in the Ottoman empire were treated as second class citizens and had to pay extortionate taxes including a Child Tax where their children -- boys and girls -- were taken as slaves to be converted to Islam and forced to serve out the rest of their lives in the Sultan's army or harem. In 1923 Turkey was forced to renounce all claim to Cyprus by the Lausanne Treaty and all Turks in Cyprus were supposed to have been repatriated to Turkey.

The constitution that the British imposed on Cyprus in 1960 violated the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by giving the 18% Muslim minority unjustifiable privileges and through institutional discriminations against the Greek Cypriot Christian majority and treating them as second class citizens. The Muslim minority was effectively treated as if it made up 50% of the population and given de facto rule of Cyprus through an undemocratic blanket right of veto which they used to paralyze the government.

After President Makarios announced his decision to make 13 amendments to this unviable and undemocratic constitution to bring it in line with Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Muslim minority pulled out of the government and began a violent armed rebellion and campaign of terror with Turkish weapons and explosives secretly smuggled into Cyprus by Turkey with the help of members of the British army and the Americans, their NATO allies. They immediately began attacking police officers and police stations and taking people hostage in December of 1963.

Contrary to Rachel Salomon's lies in paragraph six, the Akritas Plan was not about annihilating the Turkish Cypriots but was about how to reform the racist constitution while preserving peace on the island, in a civilized manner, which was being threatened by the recent discovery that arms and explosives had been supplied by Turkey and Britain to Muslim extremists who were members of the TMT terrorist organization founded by Rauf Denktash in the 1950's which attacked both Greek and Turkish Cypriots alike in order to drive them apart.

This violence, which the United Nations Security Council attributed to illegal Turkish aggression in violation of Article 2 Paragraph 4 of the UN Charter, resulted in the death of 350 Turkish Muslim terrorists and 200 Greek policemen and civilians, not 600 innocent Turkish Cypriot men, women, and children as Salomon falsely claims.

In 1965 the UN Secretary General Galo Plaza noted in the Galo Plaza report on the violence that the Turks wished to ethnically cleanse the Greek Cypriot majority which made up 82% of the population and owned 90% of the land and property on the island from their homes in the north and turn it into a purely Turkish state. To this end they began withdrawing into Turkish-only enclaves under TMT intimidation and seized and fortified the Armenian quarter of Nicosia from which they burst out and captured the Nicosia-to-Kyriania main highway to use as a bridgehead for a Turkish invasion, which was prevented by intervention from US president Lyndon Johnson.

Paragraphs 8, 9 and 10 are complete and utter hate-filled lies. The objective of coup against Makarios in 1974 planned by the American CIA who Nicos Sampson was working for and its objective was to partition Cyprus between Greece and Turkey by giving the Turks a base in the north, something which Makarios would not allow.

Paragraphs 12 is another total fabrication. Over 200,000 Greek Cypriots who made up over 82% of the populations were brutally ethnically cleansed from their homes in the north through barbaric acts committed by invading Turkish forces as is shown by the first two reports of the European Commission of Human Rights, "Turkey's invasion in Cyprus and aftermath (20 July 1974 - 18 May 1976)" and "Turkey's invasion in Cyprus and aftermath (19 May 1976 - 10 February 1983)".

Rachel Salomon's comments likening the Greek Cypriots to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampt and The Nazi Final Solution are truly disgusting and downright lies. Mustafa Kemal's genocide over 1.5 million Armenians, 2 million Greeks and 500,000 indigenous Assyrians in Asia-Minor was the inspiration of Hitler's decision to exterminate the Jews and this genocide has been continued
against the Greek Cypriots in Cyprus since, unlike Germany, Turkey has never recognized or been made to pay the price for its crimes against humanity.


http://web.israelinsider.com/views/10193.htm
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:29 am

Oracle wrote:I think she has been discredited as a paid propagandist (although she moaned she was not paid as much as others), and an outright liar and distorter of truths, on many occasions. If you get your information from her insan, it explains why you are so easily ridiculed for falsifying information, by people like Piratis and others.

Here is an analysis of some of her lies ....

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ ... -1579.html


I wonder how much she was actually paid to write this rubbish?

If she complained about not being paid enogh, why didn't she ask for a pay rise? :lol:
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Postby observer » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:59 am

It has always been said that the Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published the interview with Sampson on 26th February 1981 in which he said "Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS - I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus."

There's the date. There's the paper in which it was published. Anyone in a position to verify it from the actual source?
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:07 pm

Below is two links. Interviews with Samson and the Greek Ambassador actually talking.

It's a revelation for the Cyprus problem. Particularly the number of greek people one Priest buried in one cemetery rather conflicting with the total Official dead during the coup for the whole of Cyprus.

Piratis please see the last interview with the Greek Ambassador, not that it will change you. I am convinced that you are not a human being but a computer program. But that belongs to another thread.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-O6sNE3 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWSUFYjk ... re=related
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:26 pm

YFred wrote:Below is two links. Interviews with Samson and the Greek Ambassador actually talking.

It's a revelation for the Cyprus problem. Particularly the number of greek people one Priest buried in one cemetery rather conflicting with the total Official dead during the coup for the whole of Cyprus.

Piratis please see the last interview with the Greek Ambassador, not that it will change you. I am convinced that you are not a human being but a computer program. But that belongs to another thread.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-O6sNE3 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWSUFYjk ... re=related



There's no priest talking about burying people on these clips?
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:30 pm

ty for the videos, the first one i had seen but not second where they accuse him of being CIA
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Re: I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but...

Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:47 pm

insan wrote:"The truth about Cyprus" is the truth!
By Rachel Salomon January 7, 2007

Quit wasting people’s time with Michael Stevens and Rachel Solomon!

What constitutes “CREDIBLE EVIDENCE”?


CREDIBLE EVIDENCE is evidence acquired from an unbiased public domain source that is considered an internationally recognized authority on one or more areas pertaining to the issue at hand.


GOOD sources of evidence include:

1. The United Nations and its multitude of sub-organizations including UNFICYP.

2. International organizations such as the IMF (International monetary fund), WHO (World Health Organization), ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization), IMO (International Maritime Organization), and similar.

3. Non-profit making world renowned organizations such as, the International Committee of the Red Cross, Amnesty International, the Human Rights Watch, etc.

4. Credible international libraries, and other non-open source knowledge base sources such as the Library of Congress.

5. The many British documents made public; needless to remind that the British ruled Cyprus between 1878 and 1960, and were therefore in an excellent position to determine fact from fiction.


BAD sources of “evidence” include:

1. People’s family members, friends, and other acquaintances, all prone to bias and unable to have been in more than one location at any given moment thereby having a very limited scope of events.

2. Greek Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Armenian Cypriot, Turkish, and Greek websites, all prone to bias and therefore suspected of serving their respective interests.

3. Newspaper articles and independent authors that do not quote their credible sources of information when stating facts & figures.

4. Text that is NOT in English as it defeats the very purpose of general comprehension and any “translations” thereof that cannot be easily checked for their accuracy.

5. Open-source online encyclopedias such as the Wikipedia, that allows any person to write up articles and present them as fact with next to zero scrutiny.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:54 pm

YFred wrote:Below is two links. Interviews with Samson and the Greek Ambassador actually talking.

It's a revelation for the Cyprus problem. Particularly the number of greek people one Priest buried in one cemetery rather conflicting with the total Official dead during the coup for the whole of Cyprus.

Piratis please see the last interview with the Greek Ambassador, not that it will change you. I am convinced that you are not a human being but a computer program. But that belongs to another thread.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-O6sNE3 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWSUFYjk ... re=related




You need to stay of the drugs because your links do not support what you insinuate...Image
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