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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:24 pm

YFred wrote:If you consider the Cyprus history taught in schools, the GC side is in the dark ages mate.

GET OFF the CyProb fool!
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:If you consider the Cyprus history taught in schools, the GC side is in the dark ages mate.

GET OFF the CyProb fool!

You are the proof.
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Re: ENCLAVES DIVIDE GREEK CYPRIOTS

Postby lovernomore » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:28 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:A Greek Cypriot history teacher made a questionnaire which included the following question "Did you know that during 1963-1974 the Turkish Cypriots were forced to live in enclaves of very small area of land".

The most patriotic of all Greek cypriot newspaper "Simerini" referred to the questionnaire pointing out that the questions were begging an answer, in order to absolve the Turksih Cypriots of any responsibility.

Social fascist EDEK party led a scourging attack on the Minister of Education, Dr Andreas Demetriou. It is unprecedented Omirou (President of EDEK) said that we should consider that the Turkish Cypriots were forced to live in enclaves. Who forced them to do so, he asked, only to answer his question in the same breath. It is insinuated, he carried on, that the government of Makarios was responsible, the legal government of RoC. Is it possible, he asked, to distort history in such a manner?

Unfortunately Nikos Anastasiades, the moderate leader of DISI, also considered the questionnaire to be unacceptable. He was sure that the Turkish Cypriots led themselves into the enclaves. Pity, because Anastasiades recently did not shy from apportioning blame on all leaders of the 60's era.

So how do you explain this statement made by U.Thant, the Secretary-General of the UN in 1965, were he clearly highlights a Turkish Cypriot self-isolation policy?

”106.The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to
rigid stand against any measures which might involve having
members of the two communities live and work together, or which
might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have
to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since
the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and
geographical separation of the communities as a political goal,
it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots
which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an
alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate
policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots.”


NB: Extract from UN document S/6426.

Is the education minister, Andreas Demetriou, aware of the then UN Secretary-General’s assessment of the situation or does he get his MISINFORMATION from fools like you Bananiot?


I thing you are to young to understan. You see back in them days if Gcs said milk is black the world wuld beleive. You had a fantastik propoganda and a very carismatic statemen so you was the good people Tcs was the bad. The UN was lying to please you. Bananiot knows and he admit, you are to young and ignorant to understand.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:34 pm

Ignorant he is but not too young. If he is so sure about himself he should now refer to resolution S/7967 dated 13/6/1967 again by U Thant. There lies the truth whom U thant discovered in 1967.
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Re: ENCLAVES DIVIDE GREEK CYPRIOTS

Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:38 pm

lovernomore wrote:I thing you are to young to understan. You see back in them days if Gcs said milk is black the world wuld beleive. You had a fantastik propoganda and a very carismatic statemen so you was the good people Tcs was the bad. The UN was lying to please you. Bananiot knows and he admit, you are to young and ignorant to understand.

My age is unimportant.

UNFICYP has been all over Cyprus since early 1964, constantly gathering intelligence, writing up reports, and informing successive UN Secretary-Generals of everything happening on the island.

There is no other neutral and credible authority on Cypriot matters, and your hollow allegations are emotional rubbish!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:41 pm

Bananiot wrote:Ignorant he is but not too young. If he is so sure about himself he should now refer to resolution S/7967 dated 13/6/1967 again by U Thant. There lies the truth whom U thant discovered in 1967.

A link to which you do not provide, and of course way past the period we are talking about.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:54 pm

I cannot really respond to Piratis's logic for the simple reason that he thinks that democracy is just a matter of statistics. No matter what anyone says the mind of such people cannot be changed. Piratis believes that the majority has a sovereign right over the minority and if the majority decides to annihilate the minority then this is the democratic right of the majority. We have been through this one thousand times and Piratis has not learnt a single thing.

Let me return to the enclaves issue. The question that begs an answer is who guided and kept the turkish cypriots into the enclaves and a life of misery and pain. The liars in the Greek Cypriot community say that it was their choice. The truth of the matter is that the Turkish Cypriots were forced into the enclaves by the strong pressure of TMT, their fear of Greek Cypriot attacks and the actions of the legal government of Cyprus. Makarios, speaking in Athens on February 6 1967 was quite revealing. He said:

What kind of a new Turkish Cypriot generation will be produced in Cyprus when everything is in the hands of the Greeks? For how long will they last? May be for 3, 5 or 10 months, I cannot be sure. The Turks will then give in. Their morale is extremely low.


Makarios admits here what the defendants of the true history deny. That the aim for keeping the Turkish Cypriots in enclaves was to squeeze them to submission. There were 33 road blocks at the time around the enclaves as well as check points and all persons going in or out were checked out. There was a list of products that were not allowed in the enclaves. Among them were spare parts for cars! The worst, the government would allow Turkish Cypriots to go abroad for studies but upon concluding their studies they were not allowed to return to Cyprus!

How many Greek Cypriot pupils know of the above? The answer is no body knows these horrific details. We have been telling our kids that the Turkish Cypriots went into the enclaves willingly and that this was the policy of Turkey. These kind of lies have produced a nation of ignorant imbeciles like a few of the Greek Cypriots that write in this forum and make decent Greek Cypriots ashamed of what they are.
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:in the schools of North all the students knows what happened in 63 and 74 . They all know why they are siting at someone else home too also they know how they are parents are moved away from their houses in 58,63,74 and fially in 1974 .

In future, instead of playing with your willie all day, you should start reading GR's forum articles that are always backed by CREDIBLE EVIDENCE so you too may at last open your eyes...

The Turkish Cypriot education system of MISINFORMATION!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus17790.html

when we were coming u were still going .......

Halil, I can start being VERY BLUNT with you but I'm sure you won't like it so stop making BIG statements and a fool of yourself...


Were you not blunt enough with your opening line. Perhaps you shoud sharpen your ideas up.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:22 pm

Bananiot wrote:Makarios, speaking in Athens on February 6 1967 was quite revealing. He said:

What kind of a new Turkish Cypriot generation will be produced in Cyprus when everything is in the hands of the Greeks? For how long will they last? May be for 3, 5 or 10 months, I cannot be sure. The Turks will then give in. Their morale is extremely low.


Makarios admits here what the defendants of the true history deny.

Did you get this alleged Makarios quote from Klerides’ autobiography “My juxtaposition” by any chance? :lol:
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:30 pm

I have shown time and time again in this forum that all conflicts and wars between Cypriots and Turks in Cyprus were in fact started by the Turks, in their attempt to deny to the Cypriot people their self-determination and keep Cyprus under their control.

The Cypriot people fought and will continue to fight for democracy, freedom and self-determination.

If the Turks had allowed the Cypriot people to democratically choose what to do with their own island, then there would be no conflicts, no wars and no suffering for anybody.


Piratis,
You demonstrate here, again, that you are not interested in history but instead in moralising. You demonstrate that you're not a historian but a theologian - trying to identify the original sinner : Adam not Eve ? Eve not Adam. A daft exercise of trying to find the truth in self-serving fiction.
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