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Byzantium ,Ottoman Empire and the Origin of the Crescent

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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:11 am

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Get Real! wrote:I think Deniz and I, briefly covered the origin of the star crescent moon in the past somewhere including a picture of the coin...

Why do you 'think'. Are you getting senile GR. We also posted the Byzantine coin with the crescent and star on it.

That's what I said... now who's getting senile? :lol:



You said 'you think'. Be positive, thats all. :roll: :lol:
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Postby Antreis » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:13 am

The photo which is unfortunately in very small analysis
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:14 am

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Oracle wrote:Get your pot translated ... it is still worthy of a discussion ... many Turks still worship it as their own creation! :D

Copy-cat typical Turks!



Not exactly copycats. The old Turk were Shamanists before they turned to Islam. They worshipped nature , the sun, moon and stars, the oceans (lakes) etc. These were often evoked in their poetry. It is possible that they used the symbols of the above on their baners. Dont you think so?


Every Human group was "shamanist" before moving on to something higher ... the Turk-Ottomans were just late developers and stole ready made symbols. That's all. Nothing to be proud of. :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:17 am

denizaksulu wrote:I still would appreciate a translation of the paragraph. Oracle?


Too wordy ....

Take home message is:

The Turkish flag, and the equivalent “national symbol of” Turks, emanate from a symbol of the Byzantium Empire, and the ancient Greek city that existed in place of Istambul.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:20 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I still would appreciate a translation of the paragraph. Oracle?


Too wordy ....

Take home message is:

The Turkish flag, and the equivalent “national symbol of” Turks, emanate from a symbol of the Byzantium Empire, and the ancient Greek city that existed in place of Istambul.



I wanted a translation not a summary. I do not see a five pointed star on the coin.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:20 am

Antreis wrote:The photo which is unfortunately in very small analysis
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We've got a better picture... :D

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 1&start=10
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:24 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I still would appreciate a translation of the paragraph. Oracle?


Too wordy ....

Take home message is:

The Turkish flag, and the equivalent “national symbol of” Turks, emanate from a symbol of the Byzantium Empire, and the ancient Greek city that existed in place of Istambul.



I wanted a translation not a summary. I do not see a five pointed star on the coin.


Turkey's dropped one ....
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Postby Antreis » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:27 am

Antreis wrote:The photo which is unfortunately in very small analysis
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The resemblance is very strong to doubt the influence of this particular Byzantium symbol on the subsequent Ottoman( and Islamic) symbols .
Besides Mohamed II considered his ruling a continuation of the Eastern Roman Empire by adopting several imperial symbols and traditions of the past including the use of the Greek language for his diplomatic missions abroad.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:29 am

Doesnt work.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:32 am

Antreis, as someone who has seemingly been or lived in Eritrea, don't you find the facial characteristics of Ethiopians/Eritreans an incredibly unique blend of Caucasian and Negro features?
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