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[YFred]

MrH wrote:
You want Turkish Troops out - Sign on the dotted line.....

Gr Wrote:

And what if we DON’T want them out just yet?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 662#406662

Is GR having a nervous breakdown.

Or is there a new plan to go for 2 steps infront of the dreaded Turk!

[paliometoxo]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

[YFred]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

[paliometoxo]

but i already read on the news and from oracles post christophias told media that there will be no eu for turkey if they keep troops in cyprus..

and un troops extended another 6 months, i dont know why that makes news every 6 months its not news anymore :/

i think that was the problem with the anna plan well one of them for the south was that there would of still been 650 troops and that was unacceptable even for one troop to remain.

but turkey does have alot to lose the eu.. and they pretend like they dont care but when they run tot he eu and tell eu to forget cyprus and take turkey it shows they are desperate and at the same time dont want a solution to cyprus or dont believe there will be one they want. turkey should back off.

the troops will go after any agreement, i think also turkey is getting rid of talat with thiis early elections its clear they are having them to put another denktash in power, its obvious they are not having early elections because they are in a hurry to re elect talat so it will make this alot harder if there is no solution before they get rid of talat..

[YFred]

but i already read on the news and from oracles post christophias told media that there will be no eu for turkey if they keep troops in cyprus..

and un troops extended another 6 months, i dont know why that makes news every 6 months its not news anymore :/

i think that was the problem with the anna plan well one of them for the south was that there would of still been 650 troops and that was unacceptable even for one troop to remain.

but turkey does have alot to lose the eu.. and they pretend like they dont care but when they run tot he eu and tell eu to forget cyprus and take turkey it shows they are desperate and at the same time dont want a solution to cyprus or dont believe there will be one they want. turkey should back off.

the troops will go after any agreement, i think also turkey is getting rid of talat with thiis early elections its clear they are having them to put another denktash in power, its obvious they are not having early elections because they are in a hurry to re elect talat so it will make this alot harder if there is no solution before they get rid of talat..

I wouldn't believe what oracle says, she has a different agenda. No agreement. Christofias is also pandering to his people, to bring up the subject of Turkey and EU when its not going to be decided for another 10 years is stupid.
Talat decided about the election not Turkey. I do not believe that Turkey wants Eroglu back. Even if he does come back, he will not be able to do what denktas did. Erdogan politically regarding the Cyprus problem is probably the best Prime minister they have had and also they have the presidency. That is why a partitionist will have no power, all Turkey has to do is stop paying the wages of the Civil Service and Eroglu and his clan will be shitting bricks.

Don’t believe the rubbish that people write. The current Turkish government is the best one for Cyprus solution.

[Piratis]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

The point of the troops is to force the illegal occupation of our land. If we agree to surrender our land to you with something like the Annan plan, the of course the troops would not be needed to force the occupation, because the occupation would be legalized. As I hope you understood already, we are not stupid to legalize the occupation of our land by others.

Our aim is to get our land back. If our land is under occupation by others, it really matters little who those others are.

[Viewpoint]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

The point of the troops is to force the illegal occupation of our land. If we agree to surrender our land to you with something like the Annan plan, the of course the troops would not be needed to force the occupation, because the occupation would be legalized. As I hope you understood already, we are not stupid to legalize the occupation of our land by others.

Our aim is to get our land back. If our land is under occupation by others, it really matters little who those others are.

So you adocate we tell the Turkish army to leave, where would that leave us? with 20.000 Greek and GC soldiers and 100.000 armed reservists waiting for the opportunity to get the upper hand, can you really see us being that stupid? they will go once we have agreed to a comprehensive solution.

[Piratis]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

The point of the troops is to force the illegal occupation of our land. If we agree to surrender our land to you with something like the Annan plan, the of course the troops would not be needed to force the occupation, because the occupation would be legalized. As I hope you understood already, we are not stupid to legalize the occupation of our land by others.

Our aim is to get our land back. If our land is under occupation by others, it really matters little who those others are.

So you adocate we tell the Turkish army to leave, where would that leave us? with 20.000 Greek and GC soldiers and 100.000 armed reservists waiting for the opportunity to get the upper hand, can you really see us being that stupid? they will go once we have agreed to a comprehensive solution.

You are not after a compromise. I asked from you in another thread to name one compromise that you are willing to make from what is legally yours, and your answer was "63% of Cyprus"

So basically you are willing to make absolutely no compromise, you are just occupying our land and trying to blackmail us and force us to accept some form of partition that would make you the legal rulers of the north part of our country, which belongs by 82% to us.

[Viewpoint]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

The point of the troops is to force the illegal occupation of our land. If we agree to surrender our land to you with something like the Annan plan, the of course the troops would not be needed to force the occupation, because the occupation would be legalized. As I hope you understood already, we are not stupid to legalize the occupation of our land by others.

Our aim is to get our land back. If our land is under occupation by others, it really matters little who those others are.

So you adocate we tell the Turkish army to leave, where would that leave us? with 20.000 Greek and GC soldiers and 100.000 armed reservists waiting for the opportunity to get the upper hand, can you really see us being that stupid? they will go once we have agreed to a comprehensive solution.

You are not after a compromise. I asked from you in another thread to name one compromise that you are willing to make from what is legally yours, and your answer was "63% of Cyprus"

So basically you are willing to make absolutely no compromise, you are just occupying our land and trying to blackmail us and force us to accept some form of partition that would make you the legal rulers of the north part of our country, which belongs by 82% to us.

You conveniently forget that Cyprus belongs 100% to everyone, you have been offered 71% yet you still want more, arent you being greedy??? The individual rights of refugees will be assessed seperately so anticipating your standard response that you own 82% is irrelevant.

[Piratis]

im intrested to see how turkey will reply to christophias when he says troops out or no eu

That question will not arise because, the Cyprus problem will be resolved soon, and the Troops will revert back to 1960 levels.

The EU question will not be asked for another 10 years yet.
Turkey does not have that much to lose either way, because they already have a special relationship and they trade very well already.

There is no problem about the troops in Cyprus. They will go after the agreement.

If GC's had agreed, most would have gone by now.

The point of the troops is to force the illegal occupation of our land. If we agree to surrender our land to you with something like the Annan plan, the of course the troops would not be needed to force the occupation, because the occupation would be legalized. As I hope you understood already, we are not stupid to legalize the occupation of our land by others.

Our aim is to get our land back. If our land is under occupation by others, it really matters little who those others are.

So you adocate we tell the Turkish army to leave, where would that leave us? with 20.000 Greek and GC soldiers and 100.000 armed reservists waiting for the opportunity to get the upper hand, can you really see us being that stupid? they will go once we have agreed to a comprehensive solution.

You are not after a compromise. I asked from you in another thread to name one compromise that you are willing to make from what is legally yours, and your answer was "63% of Cyprus"

So basically you are willing to make absolutely no compromise, you are just occupying our land and trying to blackmail us and force us to accept some form of partition that would make you the legal rulers of the north part of our country, which belongs by 82% to us.

You conveniently forget that Cyprus belongs 100% to everyone, you have been offered 71% yet you still want more, arent you being greedy??? The individual rights of refugees will be assessed seperately so anticipating your standard response that you own 82% is irrelevant.

We own the 82% and we are greedy because we want that 82% which is ours?

You own 18%, and you want 29%-37%, that makes you the greedy ones obviously!

Apparently you are still unable to find even a single compromise that you are willing to make from what is legally yours. And still you demand a ton of such compromises from us, even compromises of our basic human and democratic rights!