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GR has changed his mind - No Turkish troops out yet?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:37 am

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repulsewarrior wrote:...vp, try reading my manifesto again. it is neither 'GREEK' or 'TURKISH"; and it is no compromise, if it is a society based on the principal of Persons and Individuals (Bicommunal) we seek.

As for your 'percentage' in a Bizonal make-up that I describe, it will be possible for the 'founding partners' to adapt to the changing demographics we will face in the future while it allows for us, as communities, to sustain ourselves without tearing Cyprus, as a Unitary State, in two.


Piratis sees nothing as compromise but his god given right, he has been offered 71% yet still demands more, the Turkish army will go which is part our guarantee yet he does not see the dangers we face acepting this compromise.

VP Turkish Army's presence is not really part of the guaranty; the guaranty is in the ability to legally defend the TC's from any attack. I feel confident, that knowing what has gone on since 63, it is very unlikely that even the most extreme elements would consider any attacks on the TCs and even if they did that, the RoC will join them in disguise as between 1963 and 1974.

Perhaps one of the Legal Forumers can explain, but The Guaranty is a contract signed by 4 countries and it can not be removed legally unless the all are in agreement. Any one can say what they like and what they believe, but it is a legal matter.

My understanding is that it is not part of the negotiations currently tacking place.

Can anyone tell us if it is one of the chapters to be discussed?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:06 pm

Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.

Dream on with your superiority and elitist mentality dear boy.

In my re-united Cyprus, there will be no national army.

Surplus to requirement. To be disposed to the annals of history preferably to Uranus.

If the greek Cypriot army could not defend Cyprus in 74, why have you been paying for them all that time, to play tidily winks with their galamara officers in command?

They must be bloody good at it by now. I wonder if they can win the world championship in tidily winks.

What say you dear sir, should I say your lowness on account that you are not related to my uncle Phillip.
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Postby DT. » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:37 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.

Dream on with your superiority and elitist mentality dear boy.

In my re-united Cyprus, there will be no national army.

Surplus to requirement. To be disposed to the annals of history preferably to Uranus.

If the greek Cypriot army could not defend Cyprus in 74, why have you been paying for them all that time, to play tidily winks with their galamara officers in command?

They must be bloody good at it by now. I wonder if they can win the world championship in tidily winks.

What say you dear sir, should I say your lowness on account that you are not related to my uncle Phillip.


How is a request for full democracy and equal participation by all considered a supremacist theory?

WHat the hell is wrong with people?
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:34 pm

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YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.

Dream on with your superiority and elitist mentality dear boy.

In my re-united Cyprus, there will be no national army.

Surplus to requirement. To be disposed to the annals of history preferably to Uranus.

If the greek Cypriot army could not defend Cyprus in 74, why have you been paying for them all that time, to play tidily winks with their galamara officers in command?

They must be bloody good at it by now. I wonder if they can win the world championship in tidily winks.

What say you dear sir, should I say your lowness on account that you are not related to my uncle Phillip.


How is a request for full democracy and equal participation by all considered a supremacist theory?

WHat the hell is wrong with people?

You obviously have not been reading GR posts where he claims that a new section in the forum should be set up and only the elite should be able to contribute, where as us peasants can contribute posts to other areas of this forum, coupled with his claim that the Greek Cypriot Army has the capability to wipe out the TCs in just a few days.
Will somebody make sure this man takes his medication?

As well as other posts where he may not want the Turkish army to leave Cyprus, possibly becasue he thinks they have not done enough damage to Turkey's cause of joining EU. However I must stress the last bit is due to mind reading activities, and that I am not very good at mind reading.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:51 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.

Dream on with your superiority and elitist mentality dear boy.

In my re-united Cyprus, there will be no national army.

Surplus to requirement. To be disposed to the annals of history preferably to Uranus.

If the greek Cypriot army could not defend Cyprus in 74, why have you been paying for them all that time, to play tidily winks with their galamara officers in command?

They must be bloody good at it by now. I wonder if they can win the world championship in tidily winks.

What say you dear sir, should I say your lowness on account that you are not related to my uncle Phillip.


how could they defent themselvs? its like a few thousand fighting against however many thousands of army turkey has.. the numbers where not in
gcs favour..

if greeece was full helping then it wouldent of been so bad maybe gcs could of kept away the turks
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:17 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Instead of worrying about whether the Cypriot National Guard can or cannot harm the Turkish Cypriots, and the answer is they can obliterate you in about one or two days, Turkish Cypriots should be more worried about THEIR behavior and THEIR demands.

If you attain undemocratic advantages the probability of violence sky rockets, but if you settle down to a modern fair & square democracy that will also include Turkish Cypriots in the National Guard then you have nothing to worry about and everything to gain.

Dream on with your superiority and elitist mentality dear boy.

In my re-united Cyprus, there will be no national army.

Surplus to requirement. To be disposed to the annals of history preferably to Uranus.

If the greek Cypriot army could not defend Cyprus in 74, why have you been paying for them all that time, to play tidily winks with their galamara officers in command?

They must be bloody good at it by now. I wonder if they can win the world championship in tidily winks.

What say you dear sir, should I say your lowness on account that you are not related to my uncle Phillip.


how could they defent themselvs? its like a few thousand fighting against however many thousands of army turkey has.. the numbers where not in
gcs favour..

if greeece was full helping then it wouldent of been so bad maybe gcs could of kept away the turks


Sorry Palio, that was not a serious point on my part. Its just that GR is being stupid so It was meant to be only for him.

I don't mean to sound arrogant but I don't believe that it would have made any difference even if Greece joined in. Becasue if they thought it would make a diference, they would have joined. It is just childish to say that Cyprus or Greece could fight and win against Turkey at that time. I suspect Greece were more worried that if they joined and lost, perhaps Turkey would use it as an excuse to invade more islands.

Sorry if I upset you.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:22 pm

:) no i agree maybe it wouldent have, turkish army is so much larger... istanbul alone has a bigger population then all of greece so probably not much difference just a longer war
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Postby YFred » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:28 pm

paliometoxo wrote::) no i agree maybe it wouldent have, turkish army is so much larger... istanbul alone has a bigger population then all of greece so probably not much difference just a longer war


I don't think you and I have disagreed on anything so far.

So please when you read my posts, take into account who its replying to. I am not always serious, some times I joke especially when the idea is not a good one, if you see what I mean.
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