BRITAIN HAS GONE MAD !!
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by Free Spirit » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:02 pm
kentish wrote:Phill wrote:kentish wrote:i am glad my lack of punctuation amuses you
and as for your marvelous response
exactly you make a valid point about religous beliefs.the sad cases that need religion should keep it in their sad heads
Come on mate, lets not insult those for what they believe in... For example, do you have pets?
look phill i have no problem with someone having religous beliefs as long as they keep it in their heads and dont spout their beliefs to non believers or believers of other faiths.if it gives them some form of spiritual fine but i dont need religion to make me a good or better person.my own non believing mind gives me all i need.
as for "...lets not insult..." from where i am looking this forum is based on insults especially as a belief is stated contrary to the belif of another.
yes i have a pet do you
My friend has a black Labrador called 'Benson' when he's in a good mood; when he's in a bad mood it's a 'black git'
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by Free Spirit » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:03 pm
I thought that was what this forum is about.purdey wrote:What's up with you Free spirit ? why are you so offensive ?
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by kentish » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:08 am
talking to a pet is hardly the same thing as trying to impose your beliefs on a non believer
as for you purdey yes someone that attempts to push their religous beliefs to a non believer or believer of another faith is most definately a freak or mad,not sure i said moron but if i did then i did.keep it to yourself is the best option
if a person supports a particular football club he doesnt spend his life trying to convert fans of clubs to support his
if a person loves cheese sanwiches he doesnt try to make everyone he meets eat them
as you said ,i have no problem with someone that has religous beliefs but keep them to yourself
as for you purdey yes someone that attempts to push their religous beliefs to a non believer or believer of another faith is most definately a freak or mad,not sure i said moron but if i did then i did.keep it to yourself is the best option
if a person supports a particular football club he doesnt spend his life trying to convert fans of clubs to support his
if a person loves cheese sanwiches he doesnt try to make everyone he meets eat them
as you said ,i have no problem with someone that has religous beliefs but keep them to yourself
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by Free Spirit » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:50 am
Oracle wrote:kentish wrote:yes i have a pet do you
That's no way to refer to your wife!
He doesn't he whistles her.
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by miltiades » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:18 am
Here is another reason why Britain has gone mad :
"""The pressure for new curbs increased after reports that Lloyds planned to pay out £120million in bonuses for last year. On Friday the bank gave warning that its subsidiary HBOS had lost £10billion - £1.6billion more than expected. ""
"""The pressure for new curbs increased after reports that Lloyds planned to pay out £120million in bonuses for last year. On Friday the bank gave warning that its subsidiary HBOS had lost £10billion - £1.6billion more than expected. ""
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by miltiades » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:59 am
We should just laugh at these clowns
Anjem Choudary is an obnoxious individual with repugnant views that he has aired widely over the past few days since his followers demonstrated against British soldiers who had returned from Iraq. He has been quoted as saying he would like to see the “flag of Allah” fly over Downing Street and “a pure Islamic state with sharia law” established in Britain. All women, Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a burqa; a woman’s evidence would be subordinate to a man’s in court; drunks would be whipped in public; and adulterers would be stoned to death.
He has described British troops as “cowards” and a tape recording has emerged of him telling his followers “you have money that can go towards the mujaheddin” – remarks that may have broken anti-terrorist legislation. Augmenting this unpleasant profile, former friends have come forward with photos and stories of his drunken roistering as a law student and he has acknowledged that he and his family live on state benefits.
Mr Choudary is also British. He was born and raised in Welling, southeast London. That forlorn suburb offers a lesson on how the rest of society should treat him. In the early 1990s “anti-Nazi” demonstrators flocked to Welling to protest outside the local headquarters of the British National party, where British citizens with views no less repugnant than Mr Choudary’s were building a political base among the local white population. The rule of law was upheld. Violent demonstrators were arrested and the BNP’s political rights were protected; but its headquarters was shut for breaching planning controls.
Since then Britain has suffered home-grown Islamic terrorism and has brought in laws to try to prevent its recurrence; but the principle remains the same. Mr Choudary is subject to the law. If he breaks it he should be punished, but if he does not he has every right to spout his absurd views. There have been calls to have him silenced. Our poll today suggests a majority would like to see him arrested on the grounds that he is dangerous.
This misses the point. The lesson of Guantanamo Bay and “extraordinary rendition” is that a free society gives ammunition to the enemy if it is provoked into a breach of its own revered principles, which means fighting on the higher moral ground. The best way of ensuring that his views get no more traction is to let him air them so they can be seen for being vacuous. Mr Choudary and his tiny coterie must not be turned into martyrs. Far better that we deploy the weapon for which Britain is famed: humour and ridicule. He is, to use a well-worn phrase, a sick joke and should be treated as one.
FROM THE SUNDAY TIMES OF TODAY.
Anjem Choudary is an obnoxious individual with repugnant views that he has aired widely over the past few days since his followers demonstrated against British soldiers who had returned from Iraq. He has been quoted as saying he would like to see the “flag of Allah” fly over Downing Street and “a pure Islamic state with sharia law” established in Britain. All women, Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a burqa; a woman’s evidence would be subordinate to a man’s in court; drunks would be whipped in public; and adulterers would be stoned to death.
He has described British troops as “cowards” and a tape recording has emerged of him telling his followers “you have money that can go towards the mujaheddin” – remarks that may have broken anti-terrorist legislation. Augmenting this unpleasant profile, former friends have come forward with photos and stories of his drunken roistering as a law student and he has acknowledged that he and his family live on state benefits.
Mr Choudary is also British. He was born and raised in Welling, southeast London. That forlorn suburb offers a lesson on how the rest of society should treat him. In the early 1990s “anti-Nazi” demonstrators flocked to Welling to protest outside the local headquarters of the British National party, where British citizens with views no less repugnant than Mr Choudary’s were building a political base among the local white population. The rule of law was upheld. Violent demonstrators were arrested and the BNP’s political rights were protected; but its headquarters was shut for breaching planning controls.
Since then Britain has suffered home-grown Islamic terrorism and has brought in laws to try to prevent its recurrence; but the principle remains the same. Mr Choudary is subject to the law. If he breaks it he should be punished, but if he does not he has every right to spout his absurd views. There have been calls to have him silenced. Our poll today suggests a majority would like to see him arrested on the grounds that he is dangerous.
This misses the point. The lesson of Guantanamo Bay and “extraordinary rendition” is that a free society gives ammunition to the enemy if it is provoked into a breach of its own revered principles, which means fighting on the higher moral ground. The best way of ensuring that his views get no more traction is to let him air them so they can be seen for being vacuous. Mr Choudary and his tiny coterie must not be turned into martyrs. Far better that we deploy the weapon for which Britain is famed: humour and ridicule. He is, to use a well-worn phrase, a sick joke and should be treated as one.
FROM THE SUNDAY TIMES OF TODAY.
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