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EU Urges ALL to Recognise Kosovo!

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Postby DT. » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:22 am

runaway wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Kosovo is not the same! Kosovo is not built on stolen land and property.

The 'trnc' is.



according to serbs it is actually. but who cares about Serbs? I don't see any difference between the two cases. 2 communities can't live together.


Mate,

I'd concentrate on proving a few of the things you've been saying around here first.

FOr starters you said there's no difference between a Turk and a TC.....care to prove it? Care to ask some TC's?
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Postby runaway » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:44 pm

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Kosovo is not the same! Kosovo is not built on stolen land and property.

The 'trnc' is.



according to serbs it is actually. but who cares about Serbs? I don't see any difference between the two cases. 2 communities can't live together.


Mate,

I'd concentrate on proving a few of the things you've been saying around here first.

FOr starters you said there's no difference between a Turk and a TC.....care to prove it? Care to ask some TC's?


not before you prove A LOT OF TCs here don't recognize TRNC. you said you wouldn't give names so shut up.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:21 pm

Can you see the EU recognising the TRNC and saying that the property rights there of ALL Eu citizens must be respected except for the rights of GCs?

Go on, explain to us naive folk how that will happen. And point out the brave EU commissioners who will come up with such a monstrous idea.

What you forget about Kossovo is that the EU is right there with a peace keeping and a police force to make sure that the property rights of Serbs and other MINORITIES are respected. Do you see the TRNC handing over such control to an EU force?

You also forget the the Serbs are a MINORITY in Kossovo. The GCs are a MAJORITY in the north, had they not been expelled violently. The similarity with Kossovo is that the GCs are in the place of the Albanians, not the Serbs, it is the GCs who were ethnically cleansed and that has been reaffirmed time and again by the UN and the EUROPEAN court of human rights. Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:31 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
paaul12 wrote:as sure as night follows day, the EU will be saying the same about Kibris one day :D :D


Kypros for ever, no to the Mongs.
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That's so cute :D ....
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Postby runaway » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:34 pm

Nikitas wrote:Can you see the EU recognising the TRNC and saying that the property rights there of ALL Eu citizens must be respected except for the rights of GCs?

Go on, explain to us naive folk how that will happen. And point out the brave EU commissioners who will come up with such a monstrous idea.

What you forget about Kossovo is that the EU is right there with a peace keeping and a police force to make sure that the property rights of Serbs and other MINORITIES are respected. Do you see the TRNC handing over such control to an EU force?

You also forget the the Serbs are a MINORITY in Kossovo. The GCs are a MAJORITY in the north, had they not been expelled violently. The similarity with Kossovo is that the GCs are in the place of the Albanians, not the Serbs, it is the GCs who were ethnically cleansed and that has been reaffirmed time and again by the UN and the EUROPEAN court of human rights. Be careful what you wish for because you might just get it.


Serbs think Tito brought Albanians to that region and before it was Serbian.
and now they are an independent country. noone wants to live together with Serbs :lol:
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:55 pm

kypros forever but whats with the greece flag? this is cyprus not greece
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Postby insan » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:56 pm

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Kosovo is not the same! Kosovo is not built on stolen land and property.

The 'trnc' is.



according to serbs it is actually. but who cares about Serbs? I don't see any difference between the two cases. 2 communities can't live together.


Mate,

I'd concentrate on proving a few of the things you've been saying around here first.

FOr starters you said there's no difference between a Turk and a TC.....care to prove it? Care to ask some TC's?


DT, there r a lot of differences and similarities between TCs and Turks. However, it's not any different than the differences of Turks living in various regions of Turkey. In the widest sense, there r also lot of differences and similarities among the Turks of Turkey and Turks of other Turkish States; eg. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Beside these independent countries we can also count autonomous Turkish States: Republic of Nahchevan, Republic of Tuva, Republic of Tataristan, North Osetya (Alanya) Federal Republic, Crimean Autonomous Republic Tatar Autonomous Administration, Adige Federal Republic, Altai Republic, Bashkiria Federal Republic, Saha (Yakutistan) Federal Republic, Karakalpak Turks and Karakalpakistan, Karacay-Circassian Republic, Kabardey-Balkar (Malkar) Republic, Sincan/Uighur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkistan), Republic of Chechnya, Chuvashistan, Dagestan Republic, Gagavuz (Gokoguz), Hakas People and Hakasia (Hakas Republic), and Hakas Federal Republic.

What's ur point? What r u trying to prove Runaway?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:08 pm

runaway said:

"noone wants to live together with Serbs " and is that the excuse to kick them out? Have you not seen the conditions set by the EU which involve respect for the rights of Serbs, and ALL other minorities?

Are you implying that the only justification needed to kick out a community from its ancestral home is the unwillingess of another community to live with them? Where did you learn your human rights principles?
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Postby runaway » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:09 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Kosovo is not the same! Kosovo is not built on stolen land and property.

The 'trnc' is.



according to serbs it is actually. but who cares about Serbs? I don't see any difference between the two cases. 2 communities can't live together.


Mate,

I'd concentrate on proving a few of the things you've been saying around here first.

FOr starters you said there's no difference between a Turk and a TC.....care to prove it? Care to ask some TC's?


DT, there r a lot of differences and similarities between TCs and Turks. However, it's not any different than the differences of Turks living in various regions of Turkey. In the widest sense, there r also lot of differences and similarities among the Turks of Turkey and Turks of other Turkish States; eg. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Beside these independent countries we can also count autonomous Turkish States: Republic of Nahchevan, Republic of Tuva, Republic of Tataristan, North Osetya (Alanya) Federal Republic, Crimean Autonomous Republic Tatar Autonomous Administration, Adige Federal Republic, Altai Republic, Bashkiria Federal Republic, Saha (Yakutistan) Federal Republic, Karakalpak Turks and Karakalpakistan, Karacay-Circassian Republic, Kabardey-Balkar (Malkar) Republic, Sincan/Uighur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkistan), Republic of Chechnya, Chuvashistan, Dagestan Republic, Gagavuz (Gokoguz), Hakas People and Hakasia (Hakas Republic), and Hakas Federal Republic.

What's ur point? What r u trying to prove Runaway?


I said TCs are as Turkish as Turks. I never said they are exactly the same. Yes Istanbul Turk is different from Adana Turk and Kayseri Turk is different from Edirne Turk and that doesn't make them less Turk just like TCs who are Turks as well and DT the liar couldn't prove his claim about TCs not recognizing KKTC.
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Postby runaway » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:12 pm

Nikitas wrote:runaway said:

"noone wants to live together with Serbs " and is that the excuse to kick them out? Have you not seen the conditions set by the EU which involve respect for the rights of Serbs, and ALL other minorities?

Are you implying that the only justification needed to kick out a community from its ancestral home is the unwillingess of another community to live with them? Where did you learn your human rights principles?


I didn'y say Serbs were kicked out. I said they claim that and say Albanians came afterwards. But of course I don't believe Serbs. They are not much different than GCs. If TCs live separately today it s because GCs are not mature enough to live and accept TCs as partners. You had your chance in 2004 and you said a big OXI.
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