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[MrH]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

[Kikapu]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

[lovernomore]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

Kim bu adam yahuuu, her hiyara tuz oluyor. lanet olsun senin Turklugune lan.

[wallace]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

Kim bu adam yahuuu, her hiyara tuz oluyor. lanet olsun senin Turklugune lan.

Answer in English or Fuck Off from this forum you bloody foreinger

[Kikapu]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

Kim bu adam yahuuu, her hiyara tuz oluyor. lanet olsun senin Turklugune lan.

Yes, I do like a bit of salt on my cucumber, thank you very much.!

So, 4-eyes, you have finally given up hiding behind your cover of not being a TC, because if you were a Turk, you would not call a cucumber a "hiyar" but instead a "salatalik".!

Don't you feel free and relieved when you come out of your own shadow of secrecy.?

You can act like a man in the open now and not hide like some kind of a sewer rat.!

[MrH]

Kikapu Wrote:

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

You've missed the point Kikapu.

Christofias needs to realise that Northern Cyprus is a "SEPERATE" state, no longer affiliated with the original ROC and will never be part of the current GC Controlled Republic of Cyprus. And, it's also very CLEAR that Christofias is feeling the PRESSURE of his failed promises to his OWN people, the EU and to the UN prior to his self-excited so-called presidential position. He obviously promised more than he could ever deliver, where the EU is now taping him on the shoulder to start playing hard-ball. What he's saying is no different to what's being said since 1983 - but they are only words!

Turkey knows it will not, in the short term, be an EU member state. Turkey also obviously knows that it’s an OVERALL UN SETTLEMENT of the CYPRUS problem that it must adhere to and NOT individual, non-signatory gestures. That is why nothing can ever come about of threatening to VETO Turkey's EU entry with minor, mechanical issues of the Cyprus problem such as the Varosha, Cease-fire line, removal of Turkish Troops and etc.

Christofias knows very well that the only way to achieve the goal of Turkish Troop removal is to sign a FAIR UN Settlement of the Cyprus issue based on an amicable FEDERAL solution of two states or to accept partition – this has been made clear to every GC political head since 1963!

This is not only new, its also being extremely tiresome and pointless. Christofias knows that, as long as an agreement is not reached under a UN Framework considering ALL ASPECTS of the Cyprus issue, resolving parts of it with threats of Vetoing something Turkey doesn't have, and is not guaranteed, is as affective as an astray on a motorcycle.

You want Turkish Troops out - Sign on the dotted line....... Go back and speak to your leader about the rules of the Cyprus Settlement issue; from its inception stages back in 1963 through to its completion stage (if they should reach it!), and not by acting as half-rulers posing to represent the entire island of Cyprus. That is why you will always lose at the negotiating table, that's why you almost lost with the Annan Plan scenarios and that’s why Christofias will ultimately hit a brick wall with his "Evolution" of the ROC idea as a federal plan.

The Greek Cypriots do have choices, but clearly their lack of foresight has brought us to where we are today - thank god! Continue with the good work and stop relying on fake position of overall responsibility that do not cover the "Turkish Cypriot administration of the northern part of Island" - You've dragged the issue for so long now that even the CIA have started saying it on their website!
Regards,
Mr H

[Kikapu]

Kikapu Wrote:

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

You've missed the point Kikapu.

Christofias needs to realise that Northern Cyprus is a "SEPERATE" state, no longer affiliated with the original ROC and will never be part of the current GC Controlled Republic of Cyprus. And, it's also very CLEAR that Christofias is feeling the PRESSURE of his failed promises to his OWN people, the EU and to the UN prior to his self-excited so-called presidential position. He obviously promised more than he could ever deliver, where the EU is now taping him on the shoulder to start playing hard-ball. What he's saying is no different to what's being said since 1983 - but they are only words!

Turkey knows it will not, in the short term, be an EU member state. Turkey also obviously knows that it’s an OVERALL UN SETTLEMENT of the CYPRUS problem that it must adhere to and NOT individual, non-signatory gestures. That is why nothing can ever come about of threatening to VETO Turkey's EU entry with minor, mechanical issues of the Cyprus problem such as the Varosha, Cease-fire line, removal of Turkish Troops and etc.

Christofias knows very well that the only way to achieve the goal of Turkish Troop removal is to sign a FAIR UN Settlement of the Cyprus issue based on an amicable FEDERAL solution of two states or to accept partition – this has been made clear to every GC political head since 1963!

This is not only new, its also being extremely tiresome and pointless. Christofias knows that, as long as an agreement is not reached under a UN Framework considering ALL ASPECTS of the Cyprus issue, resolving parts of it with threats of Vetoing something Turkey doesn't have, and is not guaranteed, is as affective as an astray on a motorcycle.

You want Turkish Troops out - Sign on the dotted line....... Go back and speak to your leader about the rules of the Cyprus Settlement issue; from its inception stages back in 1963 through to its completion stage (if they should reach it!), and not by acting as half-rulers posing to represent the entire island of Cyprus. That is why you will always lose at the negotiating table, that's why you almost lost with the Annan Plan scenarios and that’s why Christofias will ultimately hit a brick wall with his "Evolution" of the ROC idea as a federal plan.

The Greek Cypriots do have choices, but clearly their lack of foresight has brought us to where we are today - thank god! Continue with the good work and stop relying on fake position of overall responsibility that do not cover the "Turkish Cypriot administration of the northern part of Island" - You've dragged the issue for so long now that even the CIA have started saying it on their website!
Regards,
Mr H

I must confess to you that I stop reading your post half way down, because you are making statement that are not accurate as usual that you do in your own special way. You are still trying to sell us that "lemon car", that unless the GC's does this or that and the other, the north is lost forever. Let me remind you, that both the USA and the UK have stated very clearly that there will not be a divided Cyprus, so forget about any partition. The only 2 states solution you are ever going to get will be a Federal one under one central government as one people, one citizenship as one country, and not 2 independent states.

I thank you for your post all the same.........well, to the half I read anyway.!

[miltiades]

The following is an EU Report out today which caught my eye.

Please read how hypocritical GC leader Christofias is, and how admitting an ISLAND STILL IN CONFLICT has created such a confusing-mess of the entire Cyprus issue. A very interesting scenario where Christofias either lives in a DREAM world; Where he's somehow still expecting Turkey to give up Cyprus for an uncertain EU road (assuming that Cyprus is the only Factor affecting Turkey's EU Entry - blow another trumpet!), OR his liberal, Socialist, Communist mind is still trying to accept the only practical solution left - Partition based on Two States!

I'm sorry, but your leader is a pack of laughs! Pragmatic world leaders, in my many years of service as a journalist, never expose their cards until the end of the game. It's clear that Christofias is a trained Communist (idiot!) from a Russian so-called educated background!

Here's the report:

17:05 05Feb2009 UPDATE 2-Turkey cannot join EU until troops out-Cyprus

(Recasts adding quotes, background)
By Michele Kambas
NICOSIA, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Turkey will not be able to join the European Union as long as it keeps troops in northern Cyprus, Cypriot President Demetris Christofias said on Thursday.
In his most categorical statement since assuming Cyprus's presidency a year ago, Christofias said he did not see Turkey joining the bloc as long as the stalemate on the island's division dragged on.
Cyprus, which joined the European Union in 2004, needs to give its consent to Turkey joining the bloc, like all its other 26 EU partners.
"It's not possible for Turkey to be accepted as a member of the Union while continuing the occupation of Cyprus. Its very clear (also) for the members of the European Union and for the Commission," he said.
"No. The answer is one word," Christofias said when asked by Reuters if he saw the possibility of Turkey joining the bloc as long as it maintained troops in Cyprus's north.
Cyprus has been ethnically divided since a Turkish invasion in 1974 triggered by a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Turkey began accession negotiations in 2005 but talks have moved painfully slowly, partly out of a reluctance among states like France and Germany towards further enlargement of the bloc.
Ankara's EU ambitions have also been frustrated by the division of Cyprus, where it has about 30,000 troops in a breakaway northern Turkish Cypriot state.
Christofias has been holding reunification talks with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat since last September.
"I believe we have a common vision with Mr Talat, as old friends ... to end this unacceptable situation, to reunite our country and our people under the roof of a federation and to end the presence of foreign troops in our country.
"I want to believe this common vision continues to inspire us," said Christofias, a moderate who won over a hardliner in Greek Cypriot elections in 2007.

REUNIFICATION EFFORTS
Christofias said he wanted Turkey, which holds considerable sway over northern Cyprus, to play a positive role in reunification efforts.
"We support the admission of Turkey to the European Union. But I want to make clear -- not unconditionally. Nor does the EU itself support the entry of Turkey without any conditions," he told a news conference for foreign correspondents.
The southern parts of Cyprus are run by a Greek Cypriot government headed by Christofias, and seen internationally as representing the whole of the island in the European Union.
The EU has suspended part of Ankara's entry talks over Turkey's refusal to open ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic. Turkey does not recognise the Greek Cypriot government as being sovereign for the whole island.
"It is a paradox that a country wishing to join the bloc does not recognise a member state, and not open its ports or airports to ships and planes of that EU state," Christofias said.
"Turkey itself holds the key of its admission to the EU, it is not held by Cyprus," he added.
The Mediterranean island is split by a buffer zone manned by one of the world's oldest United Nations peacekeeping forces.
(Editing by Charles Dick)
(([email protected]; 357 22469607 Reuters messaging [email protected]))
Keywords: CYPRUS TURKEY
Thursday, 05 February 2009 17:05:15RTRS [nL5787271 ] {C}ENDS

Which part strikes you as hypocritical ?
Turkey will NEVER be allowed to join the EU for as long as it occupies a part of Cyprus , what is hypocritical about this .
The T/Cs have been reduced to a small minority of less than 80 thousand in their own country , why ??

[utu]

Turkey will have to make a choice, but also so will the EU. Cyprus or not, the question is this: given the volatility of the Near and Middle East, does the EU need Turkey more than Turkey needs the EU? With the planned alternate gas line running through Turkey from the Caucausus as an alternative to Russia (I won't elaborate on the current results of THAT stranglehold), the EU may have to think rather more progmatically, and self-interest is going to be the bottom line...

Now, several EU states (not just Cyprus) have expressed grave reservations as to Turkey's membership. That, plus Cyprus (which is regarded VERY seriously by Turks) is eroding support for the EU within Turkey. It is entirely possible that Turkey will drop it's bid by itself. If so, Cyprus' political leverage over Turkey is going to be diminished. That certainly will not help reunification talks.

[paaul12]

Kikapu Wrote:

I do not see any contradictions in what he is saying really. In fact, he is reminding Turkey that time is running out for her to choose between the EU for her people and country OVER choosing northern part of Cyprus.!

You've missed the point Kikapu.

Christofias needs to realise that Northern Cyprus is a "SEPERATE" state, no longer affiliated with the original ROC and will never be part of the current GC Controlled Republic of Cyprus. And, it's also very CLEAR that Christofias is feeling the PRESSURE of his failed promises to his OWN people, the EU and to the UN prior to his self-excited so-called presidential position. He obviously promised more than he could ever deliver, where the EU is now taping him on the shoulder to start playing hard-ball. What he's saying is no different to what's being said since 1983 - but they are only words!

Turkey knows it will not, in the short term, be an EU member state. Turkey also obviously knows that it’s an OVERALL UN SETTLEMENT of the CYPRUS problem that it must adhere to and NOT individual, non-signatory gestures. That is why nothing can ever come about of threatening to VETO Turkey's EU entry with minor, mechanical issues of the Cyprus problem such as the Varosha, Cease-fire line, removal of Turkish Troops and etc.

Christofias knows very well that the only way to achieve the goal of Turkish Troop removal is to sign a FAIR UN Settlement of the Cyprus issue based on an amicable FEDERAL solution of two states or to accept partition – this has been made clear to every GC political head since 1963!

This is not only new, its also being extremely tiresome and pointless. Christofias knows that, as long as an agreement is not reached under a UN Framework considering ALL ASPECTS of the Cyprus issue, resolving parts of it with threats of Vetoing something Turkey doesn't have, and is not guaranteed, is as affective as an astray on a motorcycle.

You want Turkish Troops out - Sign on the dotted line....... Go back and speak to your leader about the rules of the Cyprus Settlement issue; from its inception stages back in 1963 through to its completion stage (if they should reach it!), and not by acting as half-rulers posing to represent the entire island of Cyprus. That is why you will always lose at the negotiating table, that's why you almost lost with the Annan Plan scenarios and that’s why Christofias will ultimately hit a brick wall with his "Evolution" of the ROC idea as a federal plan.

The Greek Cypriots do have choices, but clearly their lack of foresight has brought us to where we are today - thank god! Continue with the good work and stop relying on fake position of overall responsibility that do not cover the "Turkish Cypriot administration of the northern part of Island" - You've dragged the issue for so long now that even the CIA have started saying it on their website!
Regards,
Mr H

Great Post Mr H, very well said