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Turkish Cypriots say Talat coalition has failed.!

Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:17 pm

Poll: Nearly three in four Turkish Cypriots say Talat coalition has failed
By Simon Bahceli

National Unity Party favourite in April election

THE TURKISH Cypriot national Unity Party (UBP), led by former right-wing ‘Prime Minister’ Dervish Eroglu, is set to win the April 19 ‘parliamentary’ election in the north, according to the results of an opinion poll produced by market researcher KADEM.

“It looks like the UBP will win,” KADEM head Muharrem Faiz told the Cyprus Mail yesterday. Asked whether Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat’s incumbent Republican Turkish Party (CTP)/ Freedom and Reform Party (ORP) coalition had even the slightest probability of remaining in power Faiz said, “No chance”.

Turkish Cypriot ‘Prime Minister’ Ferdi Sabit Soyer last month called for early elections, citing a need greater ‘parliamentary’ support for constitutional changes that would pave the way for a raft of structural reforms. He also said holding the poll in April, rather than later in the year, would minimise its impact on ongoing negotiations to end the 35-year division of the island.

However, with recession biting hard in the north, and Ankara refusing to bail out the beleaguered administration, the timing of the election looks likely to do little to improve the CTP/ORP coalition’s chance of success.

“Seventy-one per cent of the electorate say they see the government as having failed for reasons ranging from the economy, the unfair and partisan distribution of government jobs, broken promises and failure to resolve the Cyprus problem,” Faiz said.

“Seventy per cent also stated in the poll that they have debts, and of that 70 per cent 27 per cent say they are facing legal proceedings over their failure to pay interest on debts,” Faiz added.

If the 71 year-old Eroglu, who headed ‘governments’ from 1985 to 89, and again from 1996 to 2004, win, it will herald a return to pre-CTP right-wing politics – something that could further hamper already-troubled efforts to reunite the Greek and Turkish Cypriot-controlled parts of the island.

Eroglu recently returned to politics after resigning as UBP leader in 2005, saying it was “time for younger blood”.

According to Faiz, 987 people were questioned in the poll.

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Postby souroul » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:45 pm

so is the projected winning party a seperatist or do they want reunification. will they make the process more difficult? any info
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Postby YFred » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:29 pm

souroul wrote:so is the projected winning party a seperatist or do they want reunification. will they make the process more difficult? any info

UBP is the political wing of TMT.
They are seperatists.
How long is a piece of string?
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Postby utu » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:55 am

Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...
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Postby DT. » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:01 am

utu wrote:Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...



There is only one thing worse than partition and thats official partition with our acceptance as the AP was.
but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:23 am

DT. wrote:
utu wrote:Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...



There is only one thing worse than partition and thats official partition with our acceptance as the AP was.
but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad.


Had the AP succeeded , conflict would by now be happening .
Under no circumstances can the Cypriot people be asked to recognise the right of Turkey to intervene in the affairs of Cyprus.
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Postby humanist » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:12 am

are they gonna sethemselves back another 40 ? and blames the GC's for their creation?
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:39 pm

miltiades wrote:
DT. wrote:
utu wrote:Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...



There is only one thing worse than partition and thats official partition with our acceptance as the AP was.
but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad.


Had the AP succeeded , conflict would by now be happening .
Under no circumstances can the Cypriot people be asked to recognise the right of Turkey to intervene in the affairs of Cyprus.

Between whom and how would it have started.
Also, who put in the clause about the 74 prices in to the plan.
Was it TCs, GR'c or both?
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:53 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
DT. wrote:
utu wrote:Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...



There is only one thing worse than partition and thats official partition with our acceptance as the AP was.
but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad.


Had the AP succeeded , conflict would by now be happening .
Under no circumstances can the Cypriot people be asked to recognise the right of Turkey to intervene in the affairs of Cyprus.

Between whom and how would it have started.
Also, who put in the clause about the 74 prices in to the plan.
Was it TCs, GR'c or both?

Fred , I for a start would object most strenuously at the thought of going into a police station in the country of my birth and that of my ancestors and have to pay homage to either of the foreign flags that the AP allowed for. 50% Flying the GREEK flag and 50% Flying the TIRKISH flag.
Can you honestly expect the 80% plus of the Cypriot people who are not Turks to accept this situation for eternity .
Look mate there is but one solution for our problems.
Tell the fucking backward countries to get their arses out of Cyprus and then the Cypriot people will solve the problem. First they have to remove the cancer that is Turkey and Greece., the two nations that have inflicted upon the Cypriot people so much pain and suffering. You know exactly what I mean when I say backward countries don't you Fred.
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:56 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
DT. wrote:
utu wrote:Dervish Eroglu is a hard-liner. His politics is like that of Rauf Denktas, and as such, he will surely stick to a non-reconciliation, dmand-recognition policy. For the Turkish Cypriot people to turn away from Soyer and embrace Eroglu, speaks to a massive disillusionist on their part. From this viewpoint, it looks like Tassos Papadopoulous - by hish pushing the NO vote for the Annan plan - missed the only real opportunity for reconciliation. Now I know that a lot of you did not like the Annan Plan, but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad...



There is only one thing worse than partition and thats official partition with our acceptance as the AP was.
but given the choice between that and perpetuating the seperation of the island, maybe the Annan Plan wasn't all that bad.


Had the AP succeeded , conflict would by now be happening .
Under no circumstances can the Cypriot people be asked to recognise the right of Turkey to intervene in the affairs of Cyprus.

Between whom and how would it have started.
Also, who put in the clause about the 74 prices in to the plan.
Was it TCs, GR'c or both?

Fred , I for a start would object most strenuously at the thought of going into a police station in the country of my birth and that of my ancestors and have to pay homage to either of the foreign flags that the AP allowed for. 50% Flying the GREEK flag and 50% Flying the TIRKISH flag.
Can you honestly expect the 80% plus of the Cypriot people who are not Turks to accept this situation for eternity .
Look mate there is but one solution for our problems.
Tell the fucking backward countries to get their arses out of Cyprus and then the Cypriot people will solve the problem. First they have to remove the cancer that is Turkey and Greece., the two nations that have inflicted upon the Cypriot people so much pain and suffering. You know exactly what I mean when I say backward countries don't you Fred.


I personally believe that all flags should be removed. Even the Cyprus flag should be removed. Psychological.
I don't even want a new flag.
My mind is stuck on 74 prices. Why will nobody answer the question?
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