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[insan]

...intense emotional violence created by GC nationalists...

Was that from not being able to murder them by the thousands any more like you were used to before?

...all negatively affected the migration rate, development and fertility rate of TCs.

That's the stuff that huge class action lawsuits are made of...

As far as i know there had been no murdering attempts towards the ordinary GCs under the Ottoman rule. Only the ones involved in spreading Greek nationalism in order to organize and provoke GCs against Ottoman rule, executed.

Yes but you don't know very much about Cyprus remember... so why don't you ask next time?

The Ottomans began slaughtering Cypriots from the very moment they landed outside of Limassol, and when they reached Nicosia some 20,000 people were murdered... nice start to happiness!

You’d think that a Turkish Cypriot would be an expert on Ottoman history…

I said under the Ottoman rule, not during the conquer of Cyprus by Ottomans. So, if u r not capable to understand what i said, don't waste my time. Sorry GR! but r really an embryonic "ape".

[Piratis]

...intense emotional violence created by GC nationalists...

Was that from not being able to murder them by the thousands any more like you were used to before?

...all negatively affected the migration rate, development and fertility rate of TCs.

That's the stuff that huge class action lawsuits are made of...

As far as i know there had been no murdering attempts towards the ordinary GCs under the Ottoman rule. Only the ones involved in spreading Greek nationalism in order to organize and provoke GCs against Ottoman rule, executed.

Yes but you don't know very much about Cyprus remember... so why don't you ask next time?

The Ottomans began slaughtering Cypriots from the very moment they landed outside of Limassol, and when they reached Nicosia some 20,000 people were murdered... nice start to happiness!

You’d think that a Turkish Cypriot would be an expert on Ottoman history…

I said under the Ottoman rule, not during the conquer of Cyprus by Ottomans. So, if u r not capable to understand what i said, don't waste my time. Sorry GR! but r really an embryonic "ape".

What you claim is refuted by the facts I give in my earlier post. During the Ottoman rule of 3+ centuries the population of Cyprus should have at least tripled under normal circumstances. Not only it was not tripled, but the population of native Cypriots was actually reduced.

This shows in the most clear way the genocide that was going on against the native Cypriot people during the Ottoman era.

[74LB]

Anyone know what happened to the TC's between these dates ?

1963 120,000
1972 78,000

[Get Real!]

What are you Piratis an idiot.....Have a look at the history of Cyprus again and tell me when it ever was in "Peace" as you call it....What a burk!!

Cyprus was peaceful in 1569 thank you very much.

You should know GR. You were bloody there, weren't you?
How did the GCs get on with the Catholics?
Like a house on fire would be a good description.

Easy! I read through a history book and find that tens of thousands of Cypriots did not get slaughtered in that year or the ones before it.

That was not the question?
Answer it. How did they get on?

They got on without getting slaughtered.

[insan]

...intense emotional violence created by GC nationalists...

Was that from not being able to murder them by the thousands any more like you were used to before?

...all negatively affected the migration rate, development and fertility rate of TCs.

That's the stuff that huge class action lawsuits are made of...

As far as i know there had been no murdering attempts towards the ordinary GCs under the Ottoman rule. Only the ones involved in spreading Greek nationalism in order to organize and provoke GCs against Ottoman rule, executed.

Yes but you don't know very much about Cyprus remember... so why don't you ask next time?

The Ottomans began slaughtering Cypriots from the very moment they landed outside of Limassol, and when they reached Nicosia some 20,000 people were murdered... nice start to happiness!

You’d think that a Turkish Cypriot would be an expert on Ottoman history…

I said under the Ottoman rule, not during the conquer of Cyprus by Ottomans. So, if u r not capable to understand what i said, don't waste my time. Sorry GR! but r really an embryonic "ape".

What you claim is refuted by the facts I give in my earlier post. During the Ottoman rule of 3+ centuries the population of Cyprus should have at least tripled under normal circumstances. Not only it was not tripled, but the population of native Cypriots was actually reduced.

This shows in the most clear way the genocide that was going on against the native Cypriot people during the Ottoman era.

Credible evidence plax.

[Get Real!]

Anyone know what happened to the TC's between these dates ?

1963 120,000
1972 78,000

That's based on the assumption that your stats above are correct but on the CF you never ever produce numbers without quoting your credible source.

[74LB]

Anyone know what happened to the TC's between these dates ?

1963 120,000
1972 78,000

That's based on the assumption that your stats above are correct but on the CF you never ever produce numbers without quoting your credible source.

Its from the same link Piratis refers to.

[insan]

According to the link of insan, the population of Cyprus:

Year Population
1491 168,000
1575 180,000
1881 186,200
1891 209,300
1901 237,000
1911 274,100
1921 310,700
1931 348,000
1946 450,100
1960 573,600
1973 631,800

Note how the population of Cyprus increases quite fast normally except during the Ottoman era. Between 1575 and 1881, that is 306 years, the population of Cyprus had only increased by 6000 people!!! 6000 people in 306 years!!!

But thats not all. As insan tells us, during the Ottoman era 60.000 TCs were created. This means that the native population of Cyprus was actually reduced to 126.000 by the time the Ottomans were done with Cyprus!!

Then when the Ottoman rule ended, the population of Cyprus started to increase normally again and within 92 years the population had increased by 445.000.

This shows that while the Ottomans were ruling Cyprus they were actively exterminating the native population, replacing them with Turkish Settlers. That is how the Turkish minority was created in Cyprus.

This is one such extermination of the native population, where the Turks killed 20.000 Cypriots within days:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

And then insan tells us that his minority has been larger during Ottoman times! Of course insan. Since you didn't let the native population to increase and you decreased it by massacres and oppression, of course your minority would be larger in comparison back then!

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In 1571 around 35.000 Ottoman Turks settled in Cyprus why had'nt the population of Ottoman Turks trippled in 300+ years of Ottoman rule? Because Ottoman Turks and Hellen Orthodoxes massacreing each other?

[Piratis]

Anyone know what happened to the TC's between these dates ?

1963 120,000
1972 78,000

Nothing happened. Look under the table and you will see: "Figures through 1960 are based on Ottoman and British estimates and censuses. Figures thereafter are provided by Turkish Cypriot authorities. "

You only have to look at the figure they give for 1978 of 146,740 to understand they are lying. As if it is possible to double the population in 6 years

Here are the real figures during that period:

According to the censuses which took place in Cyprus before the factual partition of the island, the Greek Cypriot community amounted to 447,901 (78,2%) in 1960, and to 498,511 (78,9%) in 19734. The Turkish Cypriot community numbered 103,822 (18,1%) people in 1960, and 116 000 (18,4%) in 1973. The total population of Cyprus was 572,707 in 1960 and 631,778 in 1973 (see Appendix 3, Table 1). An average rate of annual growth for both communities between 1960 and 1973 was similar and amounted to 0,8%. In consequence, the ethnic distribution of the population did not change between 1960 and 1974 and the proportion of each community remained stable.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

[74LB]

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cyprus/cy_appen.html