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The constant hate between TC & GC

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:29 am

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
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YFred wrote:TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds.

:shock: Is that what Turkey is doing? Oh dear...

So what's wrong with that happening to you?

You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist.

:shock: Oh really? How touching... :cry:

So who had sent your people an invitation to come to Cyprus in the first place oh humanitarian one?

Big fish eats the little fish... isn't that the story of Cyprus? When your people were a shark they came to eat the herring, but now that you're a tadpole and the herring is hungry... it's tough titties.

Read your akritas plan. Your friends knew that what they were doing was an invitation realised the risk and dropped you wright in it.
From 63 to 74, TC were almost suffocated in their enclosers. War crimes is your speciality. You should know that.

Tough titties! They should've never come here in the first place.

If you ever get a second chance stick to your own country, live among your own people, and forget about adventure because time can change everything including the hunter becoming the hunted…

Are you going to start a war?
What do you mean hunter hunted?

Weren't you complaining earlier about how you became the hunted via the alleged Akritas plan and everything else?

By your description I call it Genocide squared or is it cubed. Complaining, no stating a fact, becasue you keep saying that I invited them over. Merely pointing out that the invitation came from elswhere.
Now what is your level of education and which country. You see I finished Lurucina University.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:31 am

YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
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Who had the last laugh?


You think you had the last laugh? Firstly nothing is over (and it will not be, until we are done with yet another foreign invader), and secondly I often hear you crying about embargoes and all the consequences of your illegalities against us.

You had to be a TC during the broadcasts to appreciate it. There you are claiming that the GC were broadcasting in Turkish. You are just unreal.

What you don't seem to realise dear friend, is that your policies drove TC away from Cyprus from 1963 to this day. But They are being replaced by Turks. So when will you realise it after there is no TC's left.
Carry on.


What TCs don't realize is that they are in fact just another ethnic minority. They were brainwashed to believe that they are something super special and that they deserve to have more rights and powers than what proportionally belongs to them. And since it sounds nice to be told that you are special, they readily accepted it. Just look at all the lame arguments they give when comparing themselves to the Kurds in Turkey.

In their attempt to get all those unfair gains on our expense as it was promised to them by British and Turks, they created conflicts, something which they have only themselves to blame for.

Talk about brainwashing, my god. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.


You run out of "arguments" I see.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the 18% of Turkish minority in Cyprus is just another minority, which was used by the Turks and British, by promising to this minority privileges and disproportionally large powers (and later land as well), in order to turn them against the majority and deny to Cyprus its self-determination?

You are really not "special" Fred. You are not any different than say the Turkish minority of Bulgaria, or any other minority. The only difference is what I describe above. Foreigners granting to you privileges, powers and lands on the expense of every other Cypriot, in order to deny to Cyprus its freedom.

So stop making fool of yourselves by trying to show how "special" you are when compared to the Kurds or other minorities. You are not. Get it?

TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds. You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist. What I would like to see is the same system introduced in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece. All minorites should have the right to be able to live without oppression. I don't expect it in UK becasue everybody gets a fair deal. Can you say the same about some of these countries?


No my friend. The problem with the Kurds is that Turkey doesn't even allow to them their basic human rights. The Cypriots accepted for the TCs to have tons more rights than the Kurds get in Turkey, and more even than what minorities in the UK have. Turkish as an official language for example. The problem is that you are greedy and you want more than any other minority anywhere else in the world even when what you demand is in violation of the human and democratic rights of every other Cypriots, and that is what caused the conflict, and that is what continues causing it.

To use the UK as an example, since you said it is a "fair deal", does the UK ask its minorities separately regarding what direction the country as a whole is going to take? Did they ask them separately if they want UK to unite with EU for example? Did you think the minorities that disagreed with UK uniting with EU should have the right to attack the majority and start a conflict?

But anyways, give to the Kurds in Turkey what you demand for your minority in Cyprus and then come to ask for the same thing from us. Practice what you preach, otherwise you only show that you are hypocrites.
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Postby lovernomore » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:54 am

Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Who had the last laugh?


You think you had the last laugh? Firstly nothing is over (and it will not be, until we are done with yet another foreign invader), and secondly I often hear you crying about embargoes and all the consequences of your illegalities against us.

You had to be a TC during the broadcasts to appreciate it. There you are claiming that the GC were broadcasting in Turkish. You are just unreal.

What you don't seem to realise dear friend, is that your policies drove TC away from Cyprus from 1963 to this day. But They are being replaced by Turks. So when will you realise it after there is no TC's left.
Carry on.


What TCs don't realize is that they are in fact just another ethnic minority. They were brainwashed to believe that they are something super special and that they deserve to have more rights and powers than what proportionally belongs to them. And since it sounds nice to be told that you are special, they readily accepted it. Just look at all the lame arguments they give when comparing themselves to the Kurds in Turkey.

In their attempt to get all those unfair gains on our expense as it was promised to them by British and Turks, they created conflicts, something which they have only themselves to blame for.

Talk about brainwashing, my god. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.


You run out of "arguments" I see.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the 18% of Turkish minority in Cyprus is just another minority, which was used by the Turks and British, by promising to this minority privileges and disproportionally large powers (and later land as well), in order to turn them against the majority and deny to Cyprus its self-determination?

You are really not "special" Fred. You are not any different than say the Turkish minority of Bulgaria, or any other minority. The only difference is what I describe above. Foreigners granting to you privileges, powers and lands on the expense of every other Cypriot, in order to deny to Cyprus its freedom.

So stop making fool of yourselves by trying to show how "special" you are when compared to the Kurds or other minorities. You are not. Get it?

TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds. You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist. What I would like to see is the same system introduced in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece. All minorites should have the right to be able to live without oppression. I don't expect it in UK becasue everybody gets a fair deal. Can you say the same about some of these countries?


No my friend. The problem with the Kurds is that Turkey doesn't even allow to them their basic human rights. The Cypriots accepted for the TCs to have tons more rights than the Kurds get in Turkey, and more even than what minorities in the UK have. Turkish as an official language for example. The problem is that you are greedy and you want more than any other minority anywhere else in the world even when what you demand is in violation of the human and democratic rights of every other Cypriots, and that is what caused the conflict, and that is what continues causing it.

To use the UK as an example, since you said it is a "fair deal", does the UK ask its minorities separately regarding what direction the country as a whole is going to take? Did they ask them separately if they want UK to unite with EU for example? Did you think the minorities that disagreed with UK uniting with EU should have the right to attack the majority and start a conflict?

But anyways, give to the Kurds in Turkey what you demand for your minority in Cyprus and then come to ask for the same thing from us. Practice what you preach, otherwise you only show that you are hypocrites.


Hey Robot, you allways talk about your right to unite with Greece if tiy are so in love with them why you dont pak youre bags and f**koff their.

You forget its ENOSIS that got you in this shit? I am no violant person but you are the only one on this form that I culd beat the shit out of and enjoy doing it.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:00 pm

The T/Cs just as the G/Cs must unite behind the banner of the Cypriot Nationality as per our passports IDs and international recognition of the nation of Cyprus.We should have no minorities or majorities provided that the T/Cs , G/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others embrace the nation of Cyprus and become a part of it not as the partitionist demand a separate part.
In the UK , I DO NOT SEE MY SELF AS A PART OF A MINORITY. I BELONG TO THE MAJORITY WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE.
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:06 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Who had the last laugh?


You think you had the last laugh? Firstly nothing is over (and it will not be, until we are done with yet another foreign invader), and secondly I often hear you crying about embargoes and all the consequences of your illegalities against us.

You had to be a TC during the broadcasts to appreciate it. There you are claiming that the GC were broadcasting in Turkish. You are just unreal.

What you don't seem to realise dear friend, is that your policies drove TC away from Cyprus from 1963 to this day. But They are being replaced by Turks. So when will you realise it after there is no TC's left.
Carry on.


What TCs don't realize is that they are in fact just another ethnic minority. They were brainwashed to believe that they are something super special and that they deserve to have more rights and powers than what proportionally belongs to them. And since it sounds nice to be told that you are special, they readily accepted it. Just look at all the lame arguments they give when comparing themselves to the Kurds in Turkey.

In their attempt to get all those unfair gains on our expense as it was promised to them by British and Turks, they created conflicts, something which they have only themselves to blame for.

Talk about brainwashing, my god. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.


You run out of "arguments" I see.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the 18% of Turkish minority in Cyprus is just another minority, which was used by the Turks and British, by promising to this minority privileges and disproportionally large powers (and later land as well), in order to turn them against the majority and deny to Cyprus its self-determination?

You are really not "special" Fred. You are not any different than say the Turkish minority of Bulgaria, or any other minority. The only difference is what I describe above. Foreigners granting to you privileges, powers and lands on the expense of every other Cypriot, in order to deny to Cyprus its freedom.

So stop making fool of yourselves by trying to show how "special" you are when compared to the Kurds or other minorities. You are not. Get it?

TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds. You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist. What I would like to see is the same system introduced in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece. All minorites should have the right to be able to live without oppression. I don't expect it in UK becasue everybody gets a fair deal. Can you say the same about some of these countries?


No my friend. The problem with the Kurds is that Turkey doesn't even allow to them their basic human rights. The Cypriots accepted for the TCs to have tons more rights than the Kurds get in Turkey, and more even than what minorities in the UK have. Turkish as an official language for example. The problem is that you are greedy and you want more than any other minority anywhere else in the world even when what you demand is in violation of the human and democratic rights of every other Cypriots, and that is what caused the conflict, and that is what continues causing it.

To use the UK as an example, since you said it is a "fair deal", does the UK ask its minorities separately regarding what direction the country as a whole is going to take? Did they ask them separately if they want UK to unite with EU for example? Did you think the minorities that disagreed with UK uniting with EU should have the right to attack the majority and start a conflict?

But anyways, give to the Kurds in Turkey what you demand for your minority in Cyprus and then come to ask for the same thing from us. Practice what you preach, otherwise you only show that you are hypocrites.


Hey Robot, you allways talk about your right to unite with Greece if tiy are so in love with them why you dont pak youre bags and f**koff their.

You forget its ENOSIS that got you in this shit? I am no violant person but you are the only one on this form that I culd beat the shit out of and enjoy doing it.


No, No. Just because he is a dipstick, no need to enjoy beating him up. Just verbally will do.

There are some people who actually enjoy being verbally abused, and I think GR enjoys it, and really we are doing him a favour. That just shows the generous nature of your average TC.
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:09 pm

miltiades wrote:The T/Cs just as the G/Cs must unite behind the banner of the Cypriot Nationality as per our passports IDs and international recognition of the nation of Cyprus.We should have no minorities or majorities provided that the T/Cs , G/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others embrace the nation of Cyprus and become a part of it not as the partitionist demand a separate part.
In the UK , I DO NOT SEE MY SELF AS A PART OF A MINORITY. I BELONG TO THE MAJORITY WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE.

Absolutely.

One problem.

What happens if the lunatics take over the asylum again. Who will protect the TC's.
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:15 pm

Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Who had the last laugh?


You think you had the last laugh? Firstly nothing is over (and it will not be, until we are done with yet another foreign invader), and secondly I often hear you crying about embargoes and all the consequences of your illegalities against us.

You had to be a TC during the broadcasts to appreciate it. There you are claiming that the GC were broadcasting in Turkish. You are just unreal.

What you don't seem to realise dear friend, is that your policies drove TC away from Cyprus from 1963 to this day. But They are being replaced by Turks. So when will you realise it after there is no TC's left.
Carry on.


What TCs don't realize is that they are in fact just another ethnic minority. They were brainwashed to believe that they are something super special and that they deserve to have more rights and powers than what proportionally belongs to them. And since it sounds nice to be told that you are special, they readily accepted it. Just look at all the lame arguments they give when comparing themselves to the Kurds in Turkey.

In their attempt to get all those unfair gains on our expense as it was promised to them by British and Turks, they created conflicts, something which they have only themselves to blame for.

Talk about brainwashing, my god. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.


You run out of "arguments" I see.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the 18% of Turkish minority in Cyprus is just another minority, which was used by the Turks and British, by promising to this minority privileges and disproportionally large powers (and later land as well), in order to turn them against the majority and deny to Cyprus its self-determination?

You are really not "special" Fred. You are not any different than say the Turkish minority of Bulgaria, or any other minority. The only difference is what I describe above. Foreigners granting to you privileges, powers and lands on the expense of every other Cypriot, in order to deny to Cyprus its freedom.

So stop making fool of yourselves by trying to show how "special" you are when compared to the Kurds or other minorities. You are not. Get it?

TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds. You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist. What I would like to see is the same system introduced in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece. All minorites should have the right to be able to live without oppression. I don't expect it in UK becasue everybody gets a fair deal. Can you say the same about some of these countries?


No my friend. The problem with the Kurds is that Turkey doesn't even allow to them their basic human rights. The Cypriots accepted for the TCs to have tons more rights than the Kurds get in Turkey, and more even than what minorities in the UK have. Turkish as an official language for example. The problem is that you are greedy and you want more than any other minority anywhere else in the world even when what you demand is in violation of the human and democratic rights of every other Cypriots, and that is what caused the conflict, and that is what continues causing it.

To use the UK as an example, since you said it is a "fair deal", does the UK ask its minorities separately regarding what direction the country as a whole is going to take? Did they ask them separately if they want UK to unite with EU for example? Did you think the minorities that disagreed with UK uniting with EU should have the right to attack the majority and start a conflict?

But anyways, give to the Kurds in Turkey what you demand for your minority in Cyprus and then come to ask for the same thing from us. Practice what you preach, otherwise you only show that you are hypocrites.

Has this not occurred because their constitution did not protect the Kurds.
Is this not the same constitution that you would like?
Do they not have political equality of one man one vote. Can you not see how easy it is to use such a system do deny a minority even their existence never mind their culture or language.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:20 pm

lovernomore wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Who had the last laugh?


You think you had the last laugh? Firstly nothing is over (and it will not be, until we are done with yet another foreign invader), and secondly I often hear you crying about embargoes and all the consequences of your illegalities against us.

You had to be a TC during the broadcasts to appreciate it. There you are claiming that the GC were broadcasting in Turkish. You are just unreal.

What you don't seem to realise dear friend, is that your policies drove TC away from Cyprus from 1963 to this day. But They are being replaced by Turks. So when will you realise it after there is no TC's left.
Carry on.


What TCs don't realize is that they are in fact just another ethnic minority. They were brainwashed to believe that they are something super special and that they deserve to have more rights and powers than what proportionally belongs to them. And since it sounds nice to be told that you are special, they readily accepted it. Just look at all the lame arguments they give when comparing themselves to the Kurds in Turkey.

In their attempt to get all those unfair gains on our expense as it was promised to them by British and Turks, they created conflicts, something which they have only themselves to blame for.

Talk about brainwashing, my god. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.


You run out of "arguments" I see.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the 18% of Turkish minority in Cyprus is just another minority, which was used by the Turks and British, by promising to this minority privileges and disproportionally large powers (and later land as well), in order to turn them against the majority and deny to Cyprus its self-determination?

You are really not "special" Fred. You are not any different than say the Turkish minority of Bulgaria, or any other minority. The only difference is what I describe above. Foreigners granting to you privileges, powers and lands on the expense of every other Cypriot, in order to deny to Cyprus its freedom.

So stop making fool of yourselves by trying to show how "special" you are when compared to the Kurds or other minorities. You are not. Get it?

TC's are not special. You seemed to think that you can impose your will on the TC's just like Turkey does to the Kurds. You can see how wrong the Turks are but you are blind to the fact that GCs want exactly the same thing as what Turkey does. It cant be wrong for one and right for the other. Thats racist. What I would like to see is the same system introduced in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece. All minorites should have the right to be able to live without oppression. I don't expect it in UK becasue everybody gets a fair deal. Can you say the same about some of these countries?


No my friend. The problem with the Kurds is that Turkey doesn't even allow to them their basic human rights. The Cypriots accepted for the TCs to have tons more rights than the Kurds get in Turkey, and more even than what minorities in the UK have. Turkish as an official language for example. The problem is that you are greedy and you want more than any other minority anywhere else in the world even when what you demand is in violation of the human and democratic rights of every other Cypriots, and that is what caused the conflict, and that is what continues causing it.

To use the UK as an example, since you said it is a "fair deal", does the UK ask its minorities separately regarding what direction the country as a whole is going to take? Did they ask them separately if they want UK to unite with EU for example? Did you think the minorities that disagreed with UK uniting with EU should have the right to attack the majority and start a conflict?

But anyways, give to the Kurds in Turkey what you demand for your minority in Cyprus and then come to ask for the same thing from us. Practice what you preach, otherwise you only show that you are hypocrites.


Hey Robot, you allways talk about your right to unite with Greece if tiy are so in love with them why you dont pak youre bags and f**koff their.

You forget its ENOSIS that got you in this shit? I am no violant person but you are the only one on this form that I culd beat the shit out of and enjoy doing it.


You could try, but you would have your ass kicked, and then your newspapers would write about how a "poor TC was abused" :roll:

It is our island and we can unite with whomever we want, Greece, EU whatever. If you don't like it, then go back from where you came from.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:21 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:The T/Cs just as the G/Cs must unite behind the banner of the Cypriot Nationality as per our passports IDs and international recognition of the nation of Cyprus.We should have no minorities or majorities provided that the T/Cs , G/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others embrace the nation of Cyprus and become a part of it not as the partitionist demand a separate part.
In the UK , I DO NOT SEE MY SELF AS A PART OF A MINORITY. I BELONG TO THE MAJORITY WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE.

Absolutely.

One problem.

What happens if the lunatics take over the asylum again. Who will protect the TC's.

This is the 21st century Fred , Cyprus has come a long way since the 60s , a member nation of the EU and a responsible member of the UN.
To even consider that Turkey would remain inactive in a situation where the safety of the T/Cs needed protecting , because she has not guarantor status is grotesque. Turkey with or without guarantor status would intervene , so the argument as who will protect the T/Cs does not stand up at all .
The T/Cs have an opportunity right now to protect themselves from extinction , already a minority in their own controlled areas time is running out for them . The settlers ill swallow them up and the T/C will no longer exist .
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Postby YFred » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:30 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:The T/Cs just as the G/Cs must unite behind the banner of the Cypriot Nationality as per our passports IDs and international recognition of the nation of Cyprus.We should have no minorities or majorities provided that the T/Cs , G/Cs , Armenians , Maronites and others embrace the nation of Cyprus and become a part of it not as the partitionist demand a separate part.
In the UK , I DO NOT SEE MY SELF AS A PART OF A MINORITY. I BELONG TO THE MAJORITY WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE.

Absolutely.

One problem.

What happens if the lunatics take over the asylum again. Who will protect the TC's.

This is the 21st century Fred , Cyprus has come a long way since the 60s , a member nation of the EU and a responsible member of the UN.
To even consider that Turkey would remain inactive in a situation where the safety of the T/Cs needed protecting , because she has not guarantor status is grotesque. Turkey with or without guarantor status would intervene , so the argument as who will protect the T/Cs does not stand up at all .
The T/Cs have an opportunity right now to protect themselves from extinction , already a minority in their own controlled areas time is running out for them . The settlers ill swallow them up and the T/C will no longer exist .

I really do wish I could agree with you. But isn't that what the Kurds thought about the 20th Century. Look at what they ended up with. A perfect example of how things should not be done.
Human behaviour has not changed in 10000 years.
21st Century has only just begun. I think that you can safely say that there have been more people killed in the first decade form war now than between 1900 and 1910.
We must look forward but we must also learn from our mistakes otherwise we will make the same mistakes all over again.
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