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The constant hate between TC & GC

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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:57 pm

Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:07 pm

It's a shame all you can see is hate without wishing to alleviate it practically. It adds to it of course with shortsighted statements about "Turkish Blood" or "Greek DNA".

I don't think the CyProb can be excused away with such divisive views as you express, about the "bodily" differences between GCs and TCs.

Instead, concentrate on the behaviour which causes the emotions associated with pain, suffering and injustice.

If you pick up a hot object you drop it pretty fast. The pain of blistering has the same effect in your brain as the pain of the suffering we GCs have experienced from one or two or three times that Turkey has bombed and hurt the Island.

Yet one shouldn't just concentrate on the pain of the blister ... but learn to avoid the hot stuff which caused the pain (hate). Take safeguards to minimise such hurt continuing to happen.

So look at the cause, having learnt from the pain of the effect.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:10 pm

Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:22 pm

Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:34 pm

insan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.


So you are happy that Cyprus has not seen peace since it was invaded by the Turks?

And then "Turk_Green_Eyes" wonders why the native people of Cyprus hate the invading Turks. :roll: You are a live example of the why.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:36 pm

Piratis wrote:
insan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.


So you are happy that Cyprus has not seen peace since it was invaded by the Turks?

And then "Turk_Green_Eyes" wonders why the native people of Cyprus hate the invading Turks. :roll: You are a live example of the why.


What are you Piratis an idiot.....Have a look at the history of Cyprus again and tell me when it ever was in "Peace" as you call it....What a burk!!
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:41 pm

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
insan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.


So you are happy that Cyprus has not seen peace since it was invaded by the Turks?

And then "Turk_Green_Eyes" wonders why the native people of Cyprus hate the invading Turks. :roll: You are a live example of the why.


What are you Piratis an idiot.....Have a look at the history of Cyprus again and tell me when it ever was in "Peace" as you call it....What a burk!!


Cyprus was in peace for long parts of its history. During most parts of the Byzantine era for example. If you don't know the history of our island it is not my fault.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:45 pm

Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
insan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.


So you are happy that Cyprus has not seen peace since it was invaded by the Turks?

And then "Turk_Green_Eyes" wonders why the native people of Cyprus hate the invading Turks. :roll: You are a live example of the why.


What are you Piratis an idiot.....Have a look at the history of Cyprus again and tell me when it ever was in "Peace" as you call it....What a burk!!


Cyprus was in peace for long parts of its history. During most parts of the Byzantine era for example. If you don't know the history of our island it is not my fault.


Do you mean the 400 years that the Ottomans ruled....Where your church flourished and you were allowed to live as Greeks..... :roll: :roll:
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:47 pm

Piratis wrote:
insan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Well, insan, those days were much better than earlier:

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.


During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.


So probably it was a mistake for you to come to our island I guess. Feel free to go back to where you came from if you don't want to live along with the native people of this island. But don't hope we will gift to you any part of our island, because that is not going to happen.


Better, far better, worde or worst r not my point. I pointed the facts that it seemed to me u either intentionally or by ignorance, denied.

You can go back to ur motherland if u don't want to live in a federal Cyprus governed by consociational democrasy of 2 communities.


So you are happy that Cyprus has not seen peace since it was invaded by the Turks?

And then "Turk_Green_Eyes" wonders why the native people of Cyprus hate the invading Turks. :roll: You are a live example of the why.


I'm not happy with what happened to Cyprus. And it's not my point being happy or not with what happened to Cyprus throughout the history of Cyprus. My point is, after Ottomans ceded Cyprus to Brit GC leadership didn't accept a consociational self-governance till 1960 and afterwards 1960 GC leadership pretended as if accepted and digested a unitary state governed by consociational democracy, then after a few years showed us their real face that they still insist on making TC community a mere minority.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:53 pm

The TCs in Cyprus are a minority. You think that because Ottomans ruled Cyprus centuries ago it means that your 18% is not a minority? :? If that was the case then the Turks in Bulgaria or Greece would not be a minority either. Neither the Greeks in Turkey would.

Basically you are a greedy minority of 18% who is trying to get more than what proportionally belongs to you on the expense of every other Cypriot, by collaborating with the invaders of Cyprus.
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