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[Vuryek]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

[Oracle]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

It does seem like Turkey is conducting another Ethnic Cleansing (by stealth).

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=293936

A while back BirKibrisli estimated 300,000 Settlers. I argued that even more worrying is that this represents a population of some 100,000 men of serviceable age who could take up arms.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... torder=asc

[insan]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

A related panel can be read from the link below. Without any ridiculous and prejudiced comments like Vuryek did in his post. The settlers were brang to Northern Cyprus according to the employee need of Northern Cyprus in agricultural areas. Ofc, the peasants and workers hadn't have to be educated.

http://www.ykp.org.cy/population/popula ... Cyprus.pdf

[Oracle]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

A related panel can be read from the link below. Without any ridiculous and prejudiced comments like Vuryek did in his post. The settlers were brang to Northern Cyprus according to the employee need of Northern Cyprus in agricultural areas. Ofc, the peasants and workers hadn't have to be educated.

http://www.ykp.org.cy/population/popula ... Cyprus.pdf

Insan you try and justify racism. You are the one making prejudiced comments to substantiate removing 200,000 natives and then you tell us that caused a labour shortage (ha!) facilitating the need to replenish that shortfall, from some convenient source like Anatolia.

You are a Mega-Hyper-Giga-Ultra Mongo-Otto-Turk Nationalist .... who is probably one of these Settler-peasants brought in for the labour shortfall ....

You are certainly not fit to call yourself part of any legitimate Cyprus community ....

[Vuryek]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

A related panel can be read from the link below. Without any ridiculous and prejudiced comments like Vuryek did in his post. The settlers were brang to Northern Cyprus according to the employee need of Northern Cyprus in agricultural areas. Ofc, the peasants and workers hadn't have to be educated.

http://www.ykp.org.cy/population/popula ... Cyprus.pdf

The book which I mentioned was exactly same with that records of YKP"s panel. And if you want to stay away from ridiculous comments then do not use Mete Hatay style lies which states that `all settlers came for agricultural labour demand or for estate/construction labour demand.. These are only distortion that Mete Hatay could make about this topic however when you compare what Mete Hatay said with statistics of Muharrem Faiz (which I mentioned a message before) you can easily see that Mete Hatay`s `temporarily imported labour demand` is a kind of fake. On the other hand even when we consider with economic reasons (which was another point of Mete Hatay) there is no reason for this `temporarily labour` to come and work in Cyprus. You know why? Just compare inflation rates and minimum salaries with consumer price index of Turkey and Banana republic between 1980 - 2007. And don't forget that most of these 'temporarily labour' even cannot get the minimum salary in Banana republic. You can see that they have no reason to come if they are really coming temporarily only for job.

Additionally you may want to ask Mete Hatay that why these 'temporarily labours' are moving with their families? And why if they are really temporarily, their children make a population impact at high schools and secondary schools every year and they do not leave at off peak seasons? Do you want to check Shener Elcil's statistics? Why don't you show it too to our GC friends?

Hatay is a high quality distortion demagog, nothing else and don't ever mention about these agriculture labour demand literature again. (By the way would you please tell me what agriculture do we have?) The settlers are uneducated and nobody has got any right to blame them. Most of the Banana republic citizen Cypriots might have good cars and houses but they are much more uneducated than these settlers, they cannot even realize or search for reality, begging for more money and Turkishness which is surreal. Why don't you go and talk with settlers? You can easily see most of them are Kurdish originated which brings different dimensions too this topicç

[insan]

whats your take on the settlers?

one of the most important issues for me and the future unification of the island is the settlers.

now, lets just put the whole issue of how they're here illegally which is widely known and accepted aside, and just talk about the possible ramifications of these kind of people leaking all over Cyprus.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the settlers that the Turkish government brought here over the years, are of the likes of "homeless" Anatolians picked up from the streets, or more specifically, poor uneducated people that would do and believe anything they've been told, just because they dont know better.

We've already seen crime rates rise along with the rise of illegal immigrants arriving in the ROC from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Srilanka and the general area, so i just wanted to know more about the settlers in the North. I've been hearing about they may allow "some" of them to stay, so i need to know a bit more about them.

Anyone care to enlighten me? what kind of people are they? how do you think they'll react once the boarders are wide open? any kind of information is appreciated

I recommend everyone to read the book which is published by BILBAN - IKME "The demographic composition of the northern part of Cyprus"

Briefly; according to the `legal` records 30.000 Turkey citizens has been sent to Cyprus. (Since Turkisness itself is a big unnatural paradox I prefer to use Turkish citizens) Already nearly half of these was Kurdish families. These peoples were mostly families who are removed from their homes according to ethnic cleansing project (for Kurdish) or by the official name because of water dam projects. You can choose whatever you want.
Anyway these people somehow integrated the population, and they also attended to politics according to their visions. Nowadays it is impossible even for a real Cypriot to separate them from originals .

On the other hand, at the moment population of mixture people `half Turkey citizen half Cypriot` is 16.200 which is other complicated part of our argument.

What is clear? If we inspect `legal` record of Banana republic of Northern Cyprus (You can say TRNC if you want), you can see that between 1974- 2007 there have been a movement of Turkey citizens to Northern Cyprus, simply 7674433 in - 7480816 out which means 193.617 became permanent. Joke? no! (Note these population is only civilians. Does anybody want to add at least 45000 Turkey soldiers and their families to this number?

If you check you can see that the hit! years are 2003 takes 3rd place with 18636 permanent, 2004 takes 2nd place with 32166 permanent, and our winner is 2007 with 43336! (send your regards to Talat the "peacemaker")

During Denktash`s period? I don`t know if you want to compare but it was only approximately 60000 new citizen created between 1980-2001.

Conclusion: If you count `half-breeds` as Cypriot and first wave which came between 1974 - 1980 with 30000 population as a complicated topic, it is clear that we have to send back at least 193.000-30.000 = 163.000!! I never want to talk about soldiers and their families, they already have to turn back.

Please don`t forget, these numbers are official Banana republic numbers which are very `softened`. Anybody want to assume their real number?

A related panel can be read from the link below. Without any ridiculous and prejudiced comments like Vuryek did in his post. The settlers were brang to Northern Cyprus according to the employee need of Northern Cyprus in agricultural areas. Ofc, the peasants and workers hadn't have to be educated.

http://www.ykp.org.cy/population/popula ... Cyprus.pdf

Insan you try and justify racism. You are the one making prejudiced comments to substantiate removing 200,000 natives and then you tell us that caused a labour shortage (ha!) facilitating the need to replenish that shortfall, from some convenient source like Anatolia.

You are a Mega-Hyper-Giga-Ultra Mongo-Otto-Turk Nationalist .... who is probably one of these Settler-peasants brought in for the labour shortfall ....

You are certainly not fit to call yourself part of any legitimate Cyprus community ....

U better go and listen ur national anthem and sleep; u ultra nationalist, fake Cypriot.

I'm doing a favour for u and playing ur national antem once again.

[YFred]

"Give a man a job and a good living and most of the time they behave."

They can behave back in their own village so we Cypriots who were expelled or prevented from coming to live in Cyprus can do so now. Stop this "they are human" shit. They are here displacing natural born Cypriots. Or else they can give us part of their fucking land back in Antalya or wherever they come from so we can settle. These people did not materialise out of thin air, they came from some place where they had property and family ties. They can go back there and get on with their lives.

You patronising bleeding hearts in here from both GC and TC sides make me sick. If you are not ready to take the Cypriots's side on this issue then leave!

Totally agree with you, Nikitas.!

I was under the impression that the first settlers in Cyprus were the Neanderthals. Everyone else came later. Ask GR he remembers it. Its all relative. We are all settlers.

Is there no Greeks in Turkey with land. I am sure you will be welcomed there?
Where do Greek priest qualify from?

[lovernomore]

"Give a man a job and a good living and most of the time they behave."

They can behave back in their own village so we Cypriots who were expelled or prevented from coming to live in Cyprus can do so now. Stop this "they are human" shit. They are here displacing natural born Cypriots. Or else they can give us part of their fucking land back in Antalya or wherever they come from so we can settle. These people did not materialise out of thin air, they came from some place where they had property and family ties. They can go back there and get on with their lives.

You patronising bleeding hearts in here from both GC and TC sides make me sick. If you are not ready to take the Cypriots's side on this issue then leave!

Totally agree with you, Nikitas.!

of cousre you agree you idiot, it is anti Turkish so why not agree with your loved ones. Dedik ya, her hiyara tuz olmak senin en basta gorevin.