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[insan]

GCs, put urselves into TC's place and tell me whether u would accept "majority rule" or resist against it to be the "politically equal" state partner of TC majority of Cyprus.

TCs, put urselves into GCs place and imagine TCs r the numerical majority of Cyprus e.g 20% GC / 80% TC and tell me whether u would accept GC community as a "politically equal" state partner or not.

Please be honest

[Get Real!]

This must be your best post thus far Insan… in fact I’m quite shocked you’ve managed a simple, practical, and logical summation of the current situation on Cyprus, with the exception of your dreadful “urselves” which spoilt an otherwise intelligent thread, but anyway here goes…

Given that it’s painful for both sides as Insan describes above, although I can’t for the life of me figure out why it’s “painful” for TCs because they have everything to gain and next to nothing to lose unless you’re mad enough to consider the “TRNC” the way to go , then the perfect alternative is to forget the divisive “community” crap and start thinking like a citizen of some ethnic diversity of the Cypriot nation.

Our ethnic diversity, language, customs, etc, should come SECOND while our love and devotion to our democratic nation should come first. Only democracy can bring justice by eliminating majority/minority problems.

[Kikapu]

Our ethnic diversity, language, customs, etc, should come SECOND while our love and devotion to our democratic nation should come first. Only democracy can bring justice by eliminating majority/minority problems.

I agree.!

Kikapu's "BBF" Power Sharing Plan.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21685

[Get Real!]

Our ethnic diversity, language, customs, etc, should come SECOND while our love and devotion to our democratic nation should come first. Only democracy can bring justice by eliminating majority/minority problems.

I agree.!

Kikapu's "BBF" Power Sharing Plan.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21685

Well Kick my poo!

[Kikapu]

Our ethnic diversity, language, customs, etc, should come SECOND while our love and devotion to our democratic nation should come first. Only democracy can bring justice by eliminating majority/minority problems.

I agree.!

Kikapu's "BBF" Power Sharing Plan.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21685

Well Kick my poo!

Anytime, GR.!

[Oracle]

GCs, put urselves into TC's place and tell me whether u would accept "majority rule" or resist against it to be the "politically equal" state partner of TC majority of Cyprus.

You are assuming that I would instantly see two communities. Stagnation on this point of view means you are not putting anyone in any other shoes ..... only flip-flops!

You seem unable to think outside the box of TWO communities and you will keep making the same mistakes whether as a TC or GC.

I see you still have no clothes ... so please have a shoe ......



( .... of course now, you are only asking us as a Turk )

[insan]

GCs, put urselves into TC's place and tell me whether u would accept "majority rule" or resist against it to be the "politically equal" state partner of TC majority of Cyprus.

You are assuming that I would instantly see two communities. Stagnation on this point of view means you are not putting anyone in any other shoes ..... only flip-flops!

You seem unable to think outside the box of TWO communities and you will keep making the same mistakes whether as a TC or GC.

I see you still have no clothes ... so please have a shoe ......



( .... of course now, you are only asking us as a Turk )

Existence of 2 communities is a fact born with nationalism movement and improved itself a lot in the last 100 years in correlation with the clashes between 2 communities. Even in the last 50 years gave birth to some ultra nationalists like u.

[miltiades]

How about just one community , the Cypriot one , no majorities or minorities with one mutual motherland , Cyprus.

[insan]

How about just one community , the Cypriot one , no majorities or minorities with one mutual motherland , Cyprus.

It could be... This needs a lot of "nation building" work and takes time to evolve into...

[Piratis]

Insan, human beings are greedy by nature.

For example, if you are rich it is much less likely to be a communist. If you have more money than most others, you most probably would resist the idea of equal wealth distribution.

So I can walk in the shoes of TCs , and if I could get 5 times more the votes than most other people, then probably I would not be able to resist my greedy human nature and I would indeed insist on having those 5 votes instead of having 1 like most other people. Then like a rich capitalist, I could find a million of excuses why what I support is just and right. So yes, if I was in your shoes maybe I would act like you. I hope you are satisfied with my answer

You are not acting in the way you do because you are a bad person, or a Turk or anything else. You are acting in a perfectly natural way. There are very few people that can control the tendency of human beings to be greedy, and are able to put justice above their personal interests, and I am not going to claim that I am such a rare kind of person.

It is this human nature which is fully exploited by certain outsiders to employ their divide and rule in Cyprus. What happened in Cyprus was and continues to be a text book case of divide and rule: Take a minority of the population, offer to them more (power/land/privileges etc) than everybody else, the minority will believe that those additional things offered to them are their rights (due to greediness), the majority will of course not accept to be screwed in that way, and the result is conflict between the two sides and the divide and rule is achieved.

The only solution is if foreign involvement stops. Then having more than others is not an option, and you eventually get used to be equal citizen with everybody else.